Moderators?

[Jokker]

Well, this forum hasn't even begun to be as active as it can possibly be...and we already have Danny going around making posts or threads that are basically spam.


See:

http://www.fun-motion.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60
http://www.fun-motion.com/forums/showpost.php?p=580&postcount=4
http://www.fun-motion.com/forums/showpost.php?p=582&postcount=10

and I expect more to come.

I say put up a moderator position, and have people submit in forms or something, and they could moderate at least when you don't have the time/are away from internet connection, because frankly...I (along with plenty of other members I believe) hate people who do that...

It's up to you, though I believe this forum will start to grow and it'll get out of hand real quick.

[Stigern]

Yeah, the forums needs moderators!
Over-use of exclamation marks, short posts wich contains no use for the forums should be removed.

Well, pick your moderators Matthew! :)

[Sardiini]

I agree that we should have moderators, they would delete some stupid posts
and ban idiots.

[VistaSucKs]

we should start a new thread and the first 10 to post, with reasons are moderators.we should ask matthew to start the thread.
ill pm him ok

[Jokker]

That would be something only a real STUPID administrator would do.

Moderators should not ASK to be moderators, or should not be simply picked via a thread with the "first 10 to post with reasons".

Actually, I'm revising my orginial statement. I say we wait for another couple of weeks, for Matthew to see who should be moderators. I don't want this forum to end up like a shit-hole with badly picked mods, who either don't update or simply annoy people.

[Kurrus]

We don't need mods ATM, but when the forum starts to grow, we'll need some. One at least.

[Eanfom]

I don't see how those are spam, they just see stupid to me.

[Jokker]

Spam is also considered short, off-topic, with absolutely no sense, ...posts.

SPAM = Stupid P...something A...something Messages.

Damn I hate mornings...can't even remember a simple acronym...

[Matthew]

I agree with the need to keep the forum clear of total crap. I don't have much tolerance for it myself (Danny has been banned).

I'll do a call for moderators soon. This week I'm in SF for the Game Developer's Conference, so I'm pretty tapped out for the week.

[Dj Demetrius]

That sounds good, Moderators will make this forum even better! (and that's a pretty hard thing to do)

[jaybud4]

I've already suggested this to Matt on several occasions... Looks like he got the message.

[Jokker]

Yay. *dansu*

Have fun at the conference...that reminds me that Digital Overload at CAD-Comic is starting this Friday, and I can't go. T_T I wish I could.

Oh, and, by when you get back, you should find someone to replace you until you get back, because I'm predicting tens of spam-bots to come...

[Slanzinger]

Spam is also considered short, off-topic, with absolutely no sense, ...posts.

SPAM = Stupid P...something A...something Messages.

Damn I hate mornings...can't even remember a simple acronym...

The acronym is "Stupid Pointless Annoying Messages". So you *were* close... :)

But the whole idea of "First ten to post get the place" is kind of pointless... What if it's spammers themselves that are the first 10?
The idea of mods is a good'un though, it's always useful to have someone (apart from the admin, who isn't always available) who can siphon off the rubbish and get to the über-distilled forum gold.

[jaybud4]

We don't need a thread to decide when/who he appoints. He'll appoint the chosen when he's darn well ready!

[Jokker]

The acronym is "Stupid Pointless Annoying Messages". So you *were* close... :)

But the whole idea of "First ten to post get the place" is kind of pointless... What if it's spammers themselves that are the first 10?
The idea of mods is a good'un though, it's always useful to have someone (apart from the admin, who isn't always available) who can siphon off the rubbish and get to the über-distilled forum gold.
Actually it's:

S = Stupid/Short
P = Pointless
A = Annoying/Advertising
M = Messages

There are 4 variants. >.>

Oh, and yeah, just let Matthew choose it, and simply wait until he gets back. I'm sure we can handle a few idiotic posts 'till then.

[Beakless]

Don't forget about Cheddar, The first person to get banned from fun-motion, if you need to work out what is total crap on these forums, just look at him.

[C22H28N2O]

Don't forget about Cheddar, The first person to get banned from fun-motion, if you need to work out what is total crap on these forums, just look at him.

Is he banned? What a surprise. ;)

And yeah, moderators is needen, maybe not for the moment. But they sure will be.

[mikybee93]

Well, what could happen is certain people apply for the job, tell Matt their avalable hours, (i live in Germany, so i could do earlier hours than Americans) and then Matt would look at their posts, see if they're good, and pick say, five people. I think it would work out briliantly

[Jokker]

For now, let Matt choose. Mod applications aren't available yet, so wait it out. No need to make a few more posts saying basically the same thing.

[Beakless]

For now, we can only hope.

Oh man, I can see alot of competion for the moderator slots...

[sheepy123]

Maybe all of us should vote upon said Mods or we'll let Matthew do it.

[Dj Demetrius]

I think we should just let this thread die, and let Matthew choose some people for moderators.

[Jokker]

No need to make a few more posts saying basically the same thing.


Just wait it out guys. It can't be long. Also, after looking twice, I haven't seen THAT much spamming. I suppose one, maybe at most two, would be perfect for this forum. Except the admin that is.

Bottom line, let Matthew think about it. No need to rush him. Everything eventually gets settled. (Cheddar banned, spam bots deleted, etc.)

[Z3R052]

I think we should just wait intill its more populated or a general forum is started if we had mods right now they wouldnt be doing much.

But if we did need to have some I think 2 or 3 would do it at the moment.

[Rob223]

Mods... mods always turn sour against me. Abuse of power, man, abuse of power! My younger brother got my youthink account banned, and when I made another account asking for my old account to be restored if I changed my password, they just banned the entire IP without hesitation. Mind you, I don't see anyone like that here. (you know, people who just feel the need to correct everyone else all the time, people who think that everyone else is doing whatever it is wrong, people who just like to nitpick)

Maybe that's just the youthink mods. I hope it is. Matthew seems a good admin, banning cheddar and danny, so I think the forums are okay in their current state.

PS : If there are mods, can I be one?

... Pleeeeaase *puts on sopping wet kitten look*

EDIT : Whoops.

[Jokker]

PS : If there are mods, can I be one?

... Pleeeeaase *puts on sopping wet kitten look*


Number one rule of administration:

1. Someone asks to be on the List Of Mods(TM), he is immediately put on List Of Never-Mods(TM).

Matthew = good admin.

Also, that's just a half-joke. As in, usually that happens, but not always, and not list of never...more like list of probably-not-mods.

Anyways, is it that hard to let a thread lie? Just leave it. See the post button? Don't use it. It isn't there. It's just your imagination. Amirite?

[tommyverceti]

i think this website has less spam than before. i hope it keeps up

[Relys]

I would love to be a mod. I've been around for a looong time, if you look at the comments on the main page.

[oxology]

never swore on a forum before!

[Pret.Sal]

I really dont see a need for mods right now. I havent seen a huge problem of spamming or anything yet, and if something does happen, the other members just ignore it and eventually it goes away. I think we can handle ourselves right now.

[Matthew]

http://www.fun-motion.com/news/join-the-team/

[AJJeko]

http://www.fun-motion.com/news/join-the-team/

Matthew, I sent you an email, I hope you approve me to join.

[Maltor124]

Matthew, I sent you an email, I hope you approve me to join.

Ditto. Good luck all who applied or will apply!

[Relys]

I sent one too!:cool:

[Maltor124]

What's everyone submitting for? Moderator? Reviewer? Writer?

I submitted for moderator.

[Relys]

What's everyone submitting for? Moderator? Reviewer? Writer?

I submitted for moderator.

Moderator here.

[8-Ball]

Would some of you be disappointed if you didn't get accepted?
Because right now you like bees for honey to get this moderator job, I'm starting to think you only want the job just to look good in front of the others.

[Great_Pretender]

I applied for moderator. I've already been doing it on an insanely stupid forum (Bungie.net) for nearly three years; this would be a cake walk in comparison.

I would've applied for the reviewer job, but my computer is so slow that it lags when I'm recording myself playing Solitaire, let alone something with graphics.

-TGP-

[Juggz]

Lol, you actually recorded yourself playing Solitaire?

[Uncarved]

Probably just as a benchmark.

[Matthew]

I would've applied for the reviewer job, but my computer is so slow that it lags when I'm recording myself playing Solitaire, let alone something with graphics.


Video capture/editing isn't a requirement for the reviewer position. I'd be glad to do videos for any review that needs one.

Would some of you be disappointed if you didn't get accepted?

There are 15 moderator applications in, so far, and I definitely don't need that many moderators. So, yeah, some people are going to end up disappointed...

[Z3R052]

Ditto. Good luck all who applied or will apply!


I applied for mod but I don't think ill make it, hence my low post count, at least I believe in only posting on necessary threads ;) (most of the time).

[8-Ball]

I applied for mod but I don't think ill make it, hence my low post count, at least I believe in only posting on necessary threads ;) (most of the time).
I don't think 78 posts is a low post count, shows you regularly visit and post on the forum.

[ericman666]

i applied for moderator. it would be my first time moderating, so i wouldnt be dissapointed.

[Trooth]

I considered applying for both, but I'm just not that devoted to the site. I've got my own site to run, and another site to moderate, and I'd rather have a real job than be a reviewer.

I just REALLY, REALLY hope that whoever gets picked for any position doesn't act like some kind of a smug ass about it. People like that have driven me quickly away from several sites I used to enjoy. People swear like having authority someplace on the internet makes them significantly more important.

[Beakless]

I applied to be a mod, could be a reviewer too, I guess... don't know if I have the time to write rewiews though... Looking forward in seeing who made it...

[8-Ball]

I think I read somewhere that we will know who has the positions at the weekend so not long to go.

I just REALLY, REALLY hope that whoever gets picked for any position doesn't act like some kind of a smug ass about it.
agreed, we can only hope that the questions have whittled those kind of people out.

[Dj Demetrius]

I applied for mod but I don't think ill make it, hence my low post count, at least I believe in only posting on necessary threads ;) (most of the time).

Don't think too much about post-counts, they're stupid. I like this site and the forums, but i'm not a very good reviewer (according to myself) so i'll let this pass. I hope doing this will make F-M grow and become better.

[Jetstar]

I applied too. I was one of the people who was waiting for a good reason to join the forums, I knew there was a lot of turmoil here, so I took the opportunity to help a site that I spend a lot of time on.

And vBulletin has rock solid security, we shouldn't have a problem with "l33t-skiddies" :P

[Trooth]

Are mods really that necessary on here? People seem to abide by the rules pretty much all the time.

[Maltor124]

Spam is one of the main reasons we need them. Also, off-topic threads, derailed threads, and just plain weird threads seem to be becoming more and more prevalent.

[Jetstar]

Are mods really that necessary on here? People seem to abide by the rules pretty much all the time.
I think the point was to "prepare", if you will, for a wave of newcomers who may or may not abide by the rules. And I'm sure there will only be two or three mods hired, enough to keep everything in line and splitting topics and such.

[8-Ball]

We should know soon who they are going to be, if you ask me we need them asap since there is a revolution going on at the moment were people are closing threads used big red text, scaring the new users off etc.

[Maltor124]

Agreed. The time is coming. This forum is soon going to break out of its shell and reveal itself to the worst of the forum-goers. We can only wait until he announces.

[Jetstar]

Does anyone know when exactly he's going to announce? Not like I'm anxious or anything... ;P

[8-Ball]

Does anyone know when exactly he's going to announce? Not like I'm anxious or anything... ;P
A quote from the websites comments by matthew:
I’ll close submissions this weekend and make the announcement. I’ll be out of town next week on business, so I’ll try to get the new mods and reviewers set up before then.
So, tonight maybe.

[Jetstar]

Thanks for pointing that out, I actually read that, but it didn't register I guess. D'oh!

[Maltor124]

Well, I don't really know what time zone Matthew lives in, but for me on the East Coast it's 11:42 on Sunday, the 27th of May. If he said he really was going to post the results this weekend, he has fallen behind schedule. Of course, he's probably just busy with other things, but please, Matthew, can we have the results before the end of Memorial Day weekend? (That's what it is the US right now, Europeans, Aussies, and Asians. Along with South Americans, Mexicans, Canadians, Eskimos, Africans, tomato people and Martians. [I hate having to mention everyone so nobody is like "What about my country/continent?" I mean ALL of you.])

[Jetstar]

Dang, I thought for sure he's post the results today, it's midnight here, so technically, it's Monday, not Sunday anymore.

Fake edit: And I thought I read somewhere that Matthew would be gone this week? Maybe I should read the frontpage before I make myself look like a fool...

[Trooth]

Calm down, folks. It's not a very big deal. You won't die if you have to wait another week to find out who became a mod.

[ChazFox]

Oh right. I suppose my entry came in a little late :P I had just been surfing around and decided to come back over to Fun Motion to check it out, and noticed they were taking moderators, so I applied. I think I might have applied a little late though. I was thinking if this place is based mainly in American time zones they'd need a britmod for the rest of the time when the Americans are asleep. Which is one reason I applied. I have a little bit of moderator experience under my belt so dealing with sour situations isn't all too hard.

[Maltor124]

Calm down, folks. It's not a very big deal. You won't die if you have to wait another week to find out who became a mod.

I know, it's just that there is a chance I might be gone this week, as well. It would be nice to find out before I have to leave.

[8-Ball]

*drums fingers*
It's been 17 days.................when will the forums be cleaned up?................
*drums fingers*

[Maltor124]

*Bangs head*
22 days, 21 hours, and 12 minutes...
*Bangs head*

^Me in about 5 days..^

Did Matthew die?

[Ghos7Soldier]

Be patient people.

He just responded to the "Reviewer/Moderator Status" Article saying he was busy with things.

I'm sure you want this place cleaned up and everything but if you go insane yourself for something that will come due in time then you'll end up what you wanted to get rid of on the forums itself.

[Matthew]

My apologies for the delay--been really busy with work and other things. Business trip last week, following up with proposals and crap this week, and then visiting home for my grandmother's memorial service next week. I hope to finish going through the stack of applications this weekend, though. Stay tuned!

[8-Ball]

Stay tuned!
*Tunes into Radio 1*
Just do it ASAP would you matthew, I'm losing the will to be serious :rolleyes:

[Jokker]

I'm in no hurry. Summer break starts in one week, two more days in which I have to study, then freedom...artistic freedom.

Take your time, and choose wisely.

[Maltor124]

The real thing that was bugging me was that Matthew took longer than expected and didn't tell us why. I was going crazy, wondering if he was dead, away, or what? But now that he's posted, I have brand new levels of patience. Good luck again, Matthew! (On choosing, of course.)

[8-Ball]

The real thing that was bugging me was that Matthew took longer than expected and didn't tell us why. I was going crazy, wondering if he was dead, away, or what? But now that he's posted, I have brand new levels of patience. Good luck again, Matthew! (On choosing, of course.)
This must be the first time he has had a chearleading squad :D

"Give me a M.........*silence*........"

[Maltor124]

This must be the first time he has had a chearleading squad :D

"Give me a M.........*silence*........"

*Awkward cough in background.* Uh... Yeah..... A? *Gets pelted with trash for attempting to cheer.* Ow. Harsh.

[Wrestle]

Anyone who asked to be a mod, wont be a good one.

[Ghos7Soldier]

Anyone who asked to be a mod, wont be a good one.

Like some of the people said,

If they aren't good..they can always be banned or have their moderation powers taken away.

[Maltor124]

Anyone who asked to be a mod, wont be a good one.

In addition to Ghos7's reply, I would like to add:

Who are you to make that assumption? What if a good moderator wants to be a good moderator somewhere else? What if someone wants to be a moderator and IS a good moderator? You have no way, or right to say anyone who wants to be a moderator will be a bad one. I'm sure everyone will agree with me.

[8-Ball]

In addition to Ghos7's reply, I would like to add:

Who are you to make that assumption? What if a good moderator wants to be a good moderator somewhere else? What if someone wants to be a moderator and IS a good moderator? You have no way, or right to say anyone who wants to be a moderator will be a bad one. I'm sure everyone will agree with me.
*holds head in hands*
oohhh no, don't bring rights into this. And don't ask me a an opinion because what ever I say will not change who matthew chooses.

[ChazFox]

In addition to Ghos7's reply, I would like to add:

Who are you to make that assumption? What if a good moderator wants to be a good moderator somewhere else? What if someone wants to be a moderator and IS a good moderator? You have no way, or right to say anyone who wants to be a moderator will be a bad one. I'm sure everyone will agree with me.

What he means to say is that if someone blindly comes up and says "can i b modratr pl33z lol" they'd obviously not be candidates for moderators. Anyone who wants to be a moderator should apply the way Matthew asked them to, so he can figure out for himself if they'll make a good moderator. Good moderators don't ask, they apply. "can i b mod plz lol" and "I noticed you were taking applications for moderator positions, and I thought I might apply. Here's information on my history, and here are the answers to the questions you provided on the page..." are two very different ways of "asking".

[ShortStuf7]

In addition to Ghos7's reply, I would like to add:

Who are you to make that assumption? What if a good moderator wants to be a good moderator somewhere else? What if someone wants to be a moderator and IS a good moderator? You have no way, or right to say anyone who wants to be a moderator will be a bad one. I'm sure everyone will agree with me.

It's the internet guys. It doesn't matter.:rolleyes:

You guys really take this stuff too seriously.:rolleyes:

[Jokker]

It's the internet guys. It doesn't matter.:rolleyes:

You guys really take this stuff too seriously.:rolleyes:

Stop repeating that. It's the internet. Right. So?

There are some people who care, and would rather have intelligent conversations than having mindless spamming from a hundred five-year olds. Also, if you said it didn't matter, why would you even come and post? You take it seriously enough to require to add your *ahem* intelligent input.

Seriously. Everyone let it drop. Let Matthew wait until he has time to sort through the applications, and then start complaining.

[STEVIE G]

@ Jokker,

Every post I read lately seems to end in you telling folk what you can and can't do. Have you been made a mod already? I'm guessing not but clearly you think it's in the bag with all the recent rants and bizarre analogies.

I personally couldn't care less who gets the positions providing they act with maturity and contribute positively to building a bigger and better community.

[My Opinion]

The following would be a good start ...

* No flaming because a game is not strictly physics based ( in your opinion ). The whole concept is a very woolly no matter how you define it.

* No giving people a hard time for their grammar / spelling.

* No crucifying someone for posting a game which was already mentioned 6 months ago.

* No giving people a hard time for adding something relevant to a post which may have been dead for months.

* No bullying in general - as we've witnessed countless times against a certain chap named after a brand of cheese.

There needs to be alot more tolerance in general. If I'm not mistaken this is an internet forum not a bloody class room!
[\My Opinion]

The Anti-Jokker ;)

[Maltor124]

I love you. Stevie G is the best man ever.

You said exactly what was on my mind. Although I can't say I've never done any of those things around here, they seem to be the biggest community faults right now, and I'm SO glad someone finally stated this.

So you, Mr. G, ROCK.

I'm not really sure what Jokker will say about your first statement, though...

[8-Ball]

*stays seated and lets everyone else do the work*

[futuramaguy42]

@ Jokker,

Every post I read lately seems to end in you telling folk what you can and can't do. Have you been made a mod already? I'm guessing not but clearly you think it's in the bag with all the recent rants and bizarre analogies.

I personally couldn't care less who gets the positions providing they act with maturity and contribute positively to building a bigger and better community.

[My Opinion]

The following would be a good start ...

* No flaming because a game is not strictly physics based ( in your opinion ). The whole concept is a very woolly no matter how you define it.

* No giving people a hard time for their grammar / spelling.

* No crucifying someone for posting a game which was already mentioned 6 months ago.

* No giving people a hard time for adding something relevant to a post which may have been dead for months.

* No bullying in general - as we've witnessed countless times against a certain chap named after a brand of cheese.

There needs to be alot more tolerance in general. If I'm not mistaken this is an internet forum not a bloody class room!
[\My Opinion]

The Anti-Jokker ;)

Now those should be the site rules.:)

[Maltor124]

Now those should be the site rules.:)

I agree. That's a great set of rules he made, but then, they aren't rules so much as goals, or guidelines.

[Jokker]

@ Jokker,

Every post I read lately seems to end in you telling folk what you can and can't do. Have you been made a mod already? I'm guessing not but clearly you think it's in the bag with all the recent rants and bizarre analogies.

I personally couldn't care less who gets the positions providing they act with maturity and contribute positively to building a bigger and better community.

[My Opinion]

The following would be a good start ...

* No flaming because a game is not strictly physics based ( in your opinion ). The whole concept is a very woolly no matter how you define it.

* No giving people a hard time for their grammar / spelling.

* No crucifying someone for posting a game which was already mentioned 6 months ago.

* No giving people a hard time for adding something relevant to a post which may have been dead for months.

* No bullying in general - as we've witnessed countless times against a certain chap named after a brand of cheese.

There needs to be alot more tolerance in general. If I'm not mistaken this is an internet forum not a bloody class room!
[\My Opinion]

The Anti-Jokker ;)

Actually, you think I've been telling people what to do?...I haven't. At all.

I've been talking in the imperative "let it drop", "stop saying that", because it's necessary. Do you think if I said "I think you should let it drop", "I think you should stop saying that" anyone would let it drop, or he would stop saying that? No, because he'd say my opinion doesn't matter. I may not become a mod, I'm aware. But I don't really care, frankly. I'll still be here as a member, and will still say the same things, because I care about this community.

Also, I have not broken ANY of those rules. The 'giving someone a hard time', if you mean against ShortStuf7, I did. Because the post brought nothing to the topic at hand. Moreso, after complaining about moderators and such, he brought up a silly argument. Apparently if it's the internet, it doesn't care. After that comment, I figured I should let the argument drop, but I couldn't. Because in my opinion, most of the things he said were wrong, and I'd rather not have someone here be influenced by meaningless things.

I really planned to stop the argument after that post. But he had to go and comment on my stating of well-known forum rules, and saying I shouldn't act like a moderator. Then, he went and saying moderators DON'T help newbies much, that they will ALWAYS end up banning people. Which is not fine. They end up banning people because of others like him.

Okay, supposedly I responded to all things that bothered me in his post. Oh, what's that, apparently I hate and flamed Cheddar. Right...no. I tried to protect Cheddar in every thread he made, and tried to explain to him what he did wrong. I stood up to the rest so he wouldn't get banned a second time. Was it really that meaningless? Not really. When he made a semi-proper thread, everyone ignored the topic and went on flaming, even though the topic was actually decent.

I care about this forum. Heck, I care about the whole internet. It's been changing from the start, and I'd much rather see a more friendly community, even if the only things I can do are tell people what's wrong.

What I understand now is...I don't have the support of the community. Clearly the others don't believe I have the stuff to do it. So I step down, and will refuse the moderator position if I would get it. A moderator hated by the ones he moderates is of absolutely no use.

In case you want to argue how I'm a hypocrite for doing that, read my whole post. Carefully. You'll see I'm not forced to do this, but I do not like having petty arguments with people that when cornered end up bringing silly statements.

Thanks for your time.

[Maltor124]

That's a real shame, I thought you would have made a great moderator.

Well, nonetheless, I still support you in the hopes you will accept the position if you get picked.

*sigh*

Shortstuf, it IS the internet. But it's real people. Everything you do in this community can have a profound effect on people's behaviors and thoughts. Now, because of you, apparently (as I don't believe Stevie G's rules were meant to be just for Jokker), a great candidate for moderator has decided to step down and refuse to do the job if he is picked. Jokker could have helped this forum greatly, but nope, it's the internet, so I guess it doesn't matter...

So just leave. GO. I'd rather have a person like Jokker on this forum than you.

[CX1329]

1 - Shortstuf, it IS the internet. But it's real people. Everything you do in this community can have a profound effect on people's behaviors and thoughts.

2 - Now, because of you, apparently (as I don't believe Stevie G's rules were meant to be just for Jokker), a great candidate for moderator has decided to step down and refuse to do the job if he is picked.

3 - So just leave. GO. I'd rather have a person like Jokker on this forum than you.


1 - Well, it shouldn't have any profound effect.

2 - Someone not ready to deal with criticism shouldn't be a moderator anyway.

3 - That's trolling, and is considered to be an offense in strongly moderated forums.

When flaming over the Internet, even if you win, it still looks pointless.

[Ghos7Soldier]

1 - Well, it shouldn't have any profound effect.

2 - Someone not ready to deal with criticism shouldn't be a moderator anyway.

3 - That's trolling, and is considered to be an offense in strongly moderated forums.

When flaming over the Internet, even if you win, it still looks pointless.

I'm still trying to get 3...

Are you saying MALTOR is trolling?

[Maltor124]

That wasn't even flaming... Flaming is more irrational and brutal. I just said he kept shooting down Jokker to the point where it demoralized him, and I would have rather had him stay around then the guy who shot him down.

But I've never trolled... ever.

Thanks for the defense (still trying to see if it was sarcasm or not...), Ghos7.

EDIT: And now that I think about it, weren't you just flaming me? Hypocrite.

[Jokker]

1 - Well, it shouldn't have any profound effect.

Short answer. Wrong. Long answer. As long as the person actually is serious about the internet, it does have an effect. And it's the same as saying "Let's go tell him we hate him and want him to go away. It won't have any profound effect." I'm not saying it's this way for most people, but for me, the internet is way more than a hobby. It's a 'way of life', so to speak. It's my way of connecting with the world.


2 - Someone not ready to deal with criticism shouldn't be a moderator anyway.

Criticism? Hardly. What was said was far from criticism. Criticism is saying "you wouldn't do this BECAUSE...". What was said was "you can't do this, stop it. You're wrong.".

Also, it's not like I haven't received this kind of criticism all my life, but if I become moderator, I wish to become so with the community support that a moderator should have. I clearly am not that appreciated as a could-be moderator here. If that is the case, then it is, indeed, better off if I refuse the position. If it isn't, then this forum will have to go on without me. I will not moderate here. What was said was clear evidence of the members' true feelings. I do not wish to moderate by force, or to be questioned at every corner.

I wish luck to the future moderators, however I will not become one. If you read this Matthew, please understand my motives and don't even tell me whether I would have been a choice. I'd much rather not know.

Also, I am removing myself from this thread, and won't continue this argument. If you have something you wish to talk to me about, send me a PM. There I can go on without people who presume to know me adding their 'arguments'.

PS. Just as a few final comments.

ShortStuf, I have no problem with you. Indeed I think a lot less of you from your *ahem* 'constructive' arguments, though I have absolutely no issue with you.

CX1329, If what you meant by 3 was that Maltor was trolling. It isn't. At all. What he said was his own opinion. And indeed, from his comment I could tell that it was not GO! in the sense of get the **** out, I hate you, but more like, GO! and stop doing these needless things.

Maltor, you can stop trying to defend me now. It's my own choice to refuse the position, because I realised something. I am not really wanted here. I've seen people who doubt me at the first strange comment. Also, I have seen people that in the future I may have had to take action against. And I don't wish that. Ever. I've always wanted to keep things peaceful, with as least bans as possible. And if by doing that I have to give up the position, so be it.

I have no grudge against any of you. You spoke your mind, I understood what I could out of it.

PM me if you think I misinterpreted something, or maybe took something out of context. I believe not though.

[8-Ball]

Removed by request.

Just so you know, I'm not reading this thread because of the length of the posts.

[CX1329]

Criticism is criticism, regardless of whether it's constructive or not.

And yes, I stand my point that it was trolling. Trolling means "to incite flames", and by saying he would rather have someone else on the forum, that's inciting flames.

I do take your point about the Internet, though.


Also, no, Maltor, I wasn't trying to flame you. I was simply stating points, which are my beliefs.

I'm not here to offend or insult anyone, I'm here to talk about physics games, which is what this forum is about. You'll never see me flaming, or trying to flame anyone. As you could see in that other thread, I was quite friendly to you, and that's how I act like. I'm very friendly, but when having a serious conversation, I like to be objective, and state my points.

[Maltor124]

Well, I guess that's that, then. It seems Shortstuf is gone, Jokker has made his point, and everything is back to before, with many small differences.

Also, CX, I know you weren't trying be mean, now. I wasn't either. It's just hard to tell what people mean on the internet sometimes, without body language or tone of voice. So I forgive you, and I was wrong.

Now can we please just let this thread lay dormant until Matthew chooses moderators!? PLEASE?

[Sokuto]

Trolling: To deliberately post derogatory or inflammatory comments to a community forum, chat room, newsgroup and/or a blog in order to bait other users into responding.

I don't see how Maltor was trying to purposefully start a flame war.

Plus, you said Jokker shouldn't be a moderator because he's "not ready to deal with criticism". Hypocritical?

EDIT: Damn you Maltor, you posted before me. D: I'll delete this if you want.

[CX1329]

Trolling: To deliberately post derogatory or inflammatory comments to a community forum, chat room, newsgroup and/or a blog in order to bait other users into responding.

I don't see how Maltor was trying to purposefully start a flame war.

Plus, you said Jokker shouldn't be a moderator because he's "not ready to deal with criticism". Hypocritical?

EDIT: Damn you Maltor, you posted before me. D: I'll delete this if you want.


Leave it alone, arguments like this aren't worth it.

[Ghos7Soldier]

Thanks for the defense (still trying to see if it was sarcasm or not...), Ghos7.

EDIT: And now that I think about it, weren't you just flaming me? Hypocrite.

Where was I flaming you?

[Maltor124]

Where was I flaming you?

No not you, lol. I was over talking about you. I guess I should have mentioned I was talking to CX..... XD

And keep your post fool. It is more worthy then mine! (@ Sokuto, not YOU Ghos7. :p)

[You Fail Me]

It's too bad nobody knows who I am. I think I'd make a good moderator.

[Ghos7Soldier]

It's too bad nobody knows who I am. I think I'd make a good moderator.

LIEZ AND DECIET!

[Maltor124]

It's too bad nobody knows who I am. I think I'd make a good moderator.

Lol @ Ghos7, but I think you'd make a good moderator. Probably a better one then me, but I applied anyways. Hurr. :p

Did you apply?

[You Fail Me]

Nah. I have a bad habit of posting enough on a forum to become part of the community and then totally forgetting about the forum. I don't want to do that on a forum where I'm a mod.

Though I have been getting better about joining random forums and not really being interested in them. I lurked here for ages before joining...maybe that's a sign?

[CX1329]

Nah. I have a bad habit of posting enough on a forum to become part of the community and then totally forgetting about the forum.


Are you me? :D

[You Fail Me]

I applied.

I hope Matthew gets to my application.

[Ghos7Soldier]

Lol @ Ghos7, but I think you'd make a good moderator. Probably a better one then me, but I applied anyways. Hurr. :p

Did you apply?

I applied....

To get you banned!



Naw, I'm just messing.

[You Fail Me]

Oh...well...he was talking to you...proves how observant I am.

[Maltor124]

We'll just say I was talking to both of you....since I kind of forgot myself. Hehe.

I was actually talking to You Fail, sorry Ghos7, I guess I should have said that...again... :P

[Ghos7Soldier]

We'll just say I was talking to both of you....since I kind of forgot myself. Hehe.

I was actually talking to You Fail, sorry Ghos7, I guess I should have said that...again... :P

Actually, I knew you were talking to him.

I just felt like being a smartass.

But anywho, continue on.

[You Fail Me]

I hope Matthew actually gets to my (most likely too late) application. I think I explained myself pretty well.

Also, of all the forums I've ever been on, the only one I've actually been a moderator on is the one I made for my goofy friends, hahaha.

[Maltor124]

This is actually the first forum I've ever really dedicated myself too... and the first I've ever had more than 100 posts in... Go figure.

[You Fail Me]

I've been on Sharing Lungs (a Deftones forum) since 2003/2004. I've got 5000 posts. That's what happens when you've been on a pretty active forum as long as I have.

It's the only forum I've stuck with for more than like, six months.

[CX1329]

It most likely isn't too late, because he's probably had a lot of things to deal with lately, reason why he hasn't picked anyone yet.

[You Fail Me]

What's happening here is similar to what happened with No More Whales (a browser game I used to play). Abaddon had alot of stuff to deal with and eventually just...disappeared. The game died.

[Amynue]

Who is a moderator ??

[8-Ball]

Who is a moderator ??
Maltor124
Great_Pretender
CX1329
Cyranix
(not confirmed yet)

[Muntu]

Maltor124
Great_Pretender
CX1329
Cyranix
(not confirmed yet)

Shouldn't there then be "moderator" title under their names...?

[8-Ball]

Shouldn't there then be "moderator" title under their names...?
It depends how the admin does it.

[Maltor124]

I'm pretty sure you need to create a special rank for "moderator" to appear under a mod's name. Being a mod and the rank "moderator" are two separate things, and I guess he never got around to making the rank....

[Amynue]

CX1329
Cyranix

Thanks for info.

Also, why Cyranix is a moderator......only 6 posts and he was registered 1 month ago :confused:

[Maltor124]

Thanks for info.

Also, why Cyranix is a moderator......only 6 posts and he was registered 1 month ago :confused:

Well, Matthew said he had a very good history in another forum, so good he was chosen. The name of this forum escapes me now, though. Be right back, I'll check.

EDIT: The 1UP forums. He's from the 1UP forums.

[Cyranix]

Thanks for info.

Also, why Cyranix is a moderator......only 6 posts and he was registered 1 month ago :confused:

It's true; I'm relatively new to these forums, but I feel certain you'll find me no less capable than the other fine mods who have been members here for much longer. Though I haven't been as active on the forums, I have a strong interest in game design and have had an interest in Fun-Motion for a while now.

If you have any concerns about me, I welcome you to PM me and open a conversation. If you'd like to see what sort of person I am online, visit my userpage at 1UP (in my signature) and click on the link for my contributions to the boards.

[Matthew]

There were a number of moderator applications from people with zero presence on the Fun-Motion forums. I deliberately pulled from this pool in order to get some fresh perspective. It may seem like a bizarre move, but it was deliberate.

Also, I wanted to keep the number of initial moderators low. There really were a lot of great people that I had to turn down. There were qualified people who got rejection letters...

P.S. When you're viewing the threads list for a forum section, the moderators are listed on the very bottom right.

[Maltor124]

There were a number of moderator applications from people with zero presence on the Fun-Motion forums. I deliberately pulled from this pool in order to get some fresh perspective. It may seem like a bizarre move, but it was deliberate.

Also, I wanted to keep the number of initial moderators low. There really were a lot of great people that I had to turn down. There were qualified people who got rejection letters...

P.S. When you're viewing the threads list for a forum section, the moderators are listed on the very bottom right.

Although a good idea in the long run, I hope the members will be able to adjust to having a moderator they've never heard of. It may cause some discussions of "unfairness" in the coming weeks....

[Xerxes]

*DUN DUN DUUUUN!!!* Oh, sorry.

Anyhoo, good choices, Matthew! I think these people will be a great help to the forums. Three cheers!

[Relys]

This is actually the first forum I've ever really dedicated myself too... and the first I've ever had more than 100 posts in... Go figure.

Really? I have like, at least over 500 hundred posts on each forum I go to.

And sometimes I have alts!

The mods are already chosen.. Shouldn't we close this? (Irony)

Also, I think the moderators should have a thing that says "Moderator" :rolleyes: instead of "Senior Member". I also think their should be more ranks for regular members.

[masu]

So... you have to be senior member to have the chanche be Moderator?:confused:

[CX1329]

So... you have to be senior member to have the chanche be Moderator?:confused:


Nope, I was a regular member when I got chosen. What they're saying is that there's no special rank for moderators, it's either member or senior member right now.

[Ghos7Soldier]

There were a number of moderator applications from people with zero presence on the Fun-Motion forums. I deliberately pulled from this pool in order to get some fresh perspective. It may seem like a bizarre move, but it was deliberate.

Also, I wanted to keep the number of initial moderators low. There really were a lot of great people that I had to turn down. There were qualified people who got rejection letters...

P.S. When you're viewing the threads list for a forum section, the moderators are listed on the very bottom right.
The reason I applied as I said in the form was that I wanted to help out, plus it would be something to do instead of be bored. And I didn't have a great background on anything but what I'm saying is, is that you picked the right ones. It'd be better for them instead of me.