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Relys
05-31-2007, 01:58 AM
http://fun-motion.com/forums/showthread.php?t=441

Discuss...

I wrote that whole thing, let it not be in vain!

Maltor124
05-31-2007, 02:13 AM
This is a great RTS, with a great use of physics. It's really the closest thing you can possibly get to a "sandbox RTS" these days. It's a remarkable game, both of them are, but especially B&W2.

Relys
05-31-2007, 02:20 AM
Black & White 1, from my knowledge. Was more popular because there was more creatures, it was more free-flowing, and there wasn't some graphic bugs.

I'm really looking froward to playing the sequel thou!

I have so much fun, saving my game (or going into "The Gods Playground") and destroying all the inhabitance!

It's the funnest RTS game I have ever played! You're mad, if you don't find great and vast fun in this game!

Ryuraga
05-31-2007, 04:37 AM
i thought the game was okay overall. the physics were geat, but the camera controls were just too fussy for me, what with all the zooming in and out trying to find a person.

Pret.Sal
05-31-2007, 04:48 AM
ever since we started talking about B&W in the RTS Physics Games thread, i started playing it again, i stopped because i was getting a little bored, but im so into it now! It's so much fun to be able to do anything you want, when im bored i just pick up one of my extra citizins and throw him! Its also hilaarious to see your pet doing stuff, like popping on your villagers, pighting trees on fire and throwing them at enemies, picking up rocks, weightlifting them, then chucking them into the other side of the island. I've been playing the game mainly with a goodness attitude, trying to build my cities on impressiveness and see how good they become, because i personally think its easier that way :p If you get it and you ever get bored, there are countless mods which enhance the experience, a good site i recommend is http://blackandwhite2.filefront.com/

i havent played the first one yet, and i have yet to ge the expansion, but its seriously endless fun.

mikybee93
05-31-2007, 05:37 AM
There was this one game that kinda used physics caled Clonk, its rlly fun and its an RTS but witout any opponetnt, still my fave. Google it, u can get it for free.

Amynue
05-31-2007, 06:09 AM
I hate RTS's and RPG's because they are borring like a shit, but i love B&W series.
I really like destroying buildings with stones or other stuff :p

Beakless
05-31-2007, 09:46 AM
It got boring for me, I couldn't be bothered to do the missions, so when the story got going I just gave up and now the game is gathering dust under the stairs (it was on £2.50 anyways). But I thought at the time "Crap game, good physics).

8-Ball
05-31-2007, 11:54 AM
ah yes, black and white. This is one of my most played games but I don't think I got anywhere. I loved the physics, just throwing rocks on village people or walls. *evil laugh*

Muntu
05-31-2007, 12:23 PM
I tried B&W 2. 'Twas good, but I just HATED the hand-thingy you controlled with mouse. Why the f*** couldn't it be like ordinary rts-cursor...

Beakless
05-31-2007, 12:24 PM
I tried B&W 2. 'Twas good, but I just HATED the hand-thingy you controlled with mouse. Why the f*** couldn't it be like ordinary rts-cursor...

Because God dosen't use a mouse...

ChazFox
05-31-2007, 12:31 PM
Been a while since I played B&W. The Gods' playground is lots of fun. Anyone find the secret bowling set? :3

Muntu
05-31-2007, 12:38 PM
Because God dosen't use a mouse...

Heh, funny. It sucked because the handling was shit.
Has B&W 1 got the same handthing? I might try it

Beakless
05-31-2007, 12:38 PM
Been a while since I played B&W. The Gods' playground is lots of fun. Anyone find the secret bowling set? :3

Yes! I did..... Wasn't much fun, mind...

Tigerdav
05-31-2007, 12:43 PM
I got both of these, they're great! :D Throwing boulders at walls and people is insane amounts of fun!
And has anyone ever played arond with the Lionhead Logo when you start up B&W 2? Some good physics there as well

ChazFox
05-31-2007, 12:54 PM
Yes! I did..... Wasn't much fun, mind...

Yeah, but it was a nice touch. Even if I can't bowl to save my life :p Destroying buildings with a giant bowling ball is hilarious though :D

Beakless
05-31-2007, 01:12 PM
Somehow, I felt that loinhead made a very engaging game by accident here... I think that the fact that Black & White became so popular is a bit of a fluke.

I say this because all of us are saying "It was so cool smashing buildings with rocks and throwing people around", which is true, but the actual game its self isn't very fun, and if you took out the ability to smash buildings and stuff it would be pretty crap.

Great_Pretender
05-31-2007, 01:54 PM
I never got around to playing the full version of Black and White 2.

The first was awesome.
-TGP-

mikybee93
05-31-2007, 01:58 PM
Yah, im not sure if they meant to make it crapy on PURPOSE, but either way the game itself sux rlly bad.. but its rlly fun to pick up ppl and throw them, or jsut throw things around (try to juggle, its rlly hard)

Beakless
05-31-2007, 02:10 PM
Yah, im not sure if they meant to make it crapy on PURPOSE, but either way the game itself sux rlly bad..

No no no, you misunderstand, I didn't mean that lionhead made a shit game on purpose, i'm saying that they made a good game by accident... Like you said "I loved thowing people around and juggling them". Do you think Lionhead thought, "Hmm, well, the game sucks but at least they can throw rocks and stuff"? Of course not, black and white was a total fluke.

Dj Demetrius
05-31-2007, 03:00 PM
I actually beat this game awhile ago. I got it delivered with my new computer (that was new back then) and played through the story. I didn't think it was that bad as some of you say, I liked because it was so slow, you didn't have to hurry all the time. and the there was all these side-quests that you could do!

Did you know by the way that if you press a button (i think it's N or something) you can see some of the villagers names. If you use Outlook, some of the names of people in your inbox might appear. Also, some of the people from the credits appear sometimes. I actually threw the game producer (Peter Molyneux) over a mountain...

Xerxes
05-31-2007, 04:42 PM
I posted this a while ago... Anyhoo, Awesome Game (tm)! Question: Is there a sandbox area in B&W 2? The first one doesn't work on my computer (no XP support) and I can't find a sandbox in number two.

Relys
05-31-2007, 06:32 PM
I posted this a while ago... Anyhoo, Awesome Game (tm)! Question: Is there a sandbox area in B&W 2? The first one doesn't work on my computer (no XP support) and I can't find a sandbox in number two.

Patch to the latest version, I have Windows XP and B&W 1 works just fine.

Also, the first one has an logo physics demo too. I actually liked it better than the second one!

Yes B&W 2 has a sandbox place! There's also some nice, user created sandbox maps.

Z3R052
05-31-2007, 07:12 PM
Where can I find a cheap version of B&W 1 for some reason I'm having a hard time finding it (not online), I have two but it doesn't work right now.

mikybee93
05-31-2007, 07:26 PM
Amazon.com has a ton of cheap stuff....

Maltor124
05-31-2007, 07:40 PM
I wouldn't say B&W or B&W2 were bad games at all. They were just very slow paced, like DJ said, but that doesn't mean its a bad game. I don't necessarily like the way the game's controls work, but I think it's still a great game.

Rob223
05-31-2007, 07:54 PM
Damndamndamn... I have this game, my sodding graphics card won't run it.

Beakless
05-31-2007, 08:20 PM
Which one? Black & White 1 or 2? ... Or both?

Relys
05-31-2007, 08:21 PM
Damndamndamn... I have this game, my sodding graphics card won't run it.

Number 2? Number 1 should work just fine! As for a cheap place to get it, I would recommend amazon.com. This is a six year old game, I myself would call it abandonware...

I can play this game for hours on end!

Well I got to go eat, and then mow my neighbors lawn for "monies"!

Juggz
06-01-2007, 12:24 AM
I have both, 1 was good, 2 was better.

Pret.Sal
06-01-2007, 01:16 AM
i liked the fact it was slow paced, i never felt pressured to hurry up or do something specific, even if your civilization is going down the toilet of hell, you could still do whatever you want and easily save the town.

Beakless
06-01-2007, 10:01 AM
Easily?! Man, you must have been good at this game... I was super shit, I managed to destroy and kill my entire city when I wasn't even in a mission, death just used to follow me around.

Dj Demetrius
06-01-2007, 03:52 PM
Easily?! Man, you must have been good at this game... I was super shit, I managed to destroy and kill my entire city when I wasn't even in a mission, death just used to follow me around.

Heh, i know what you mean...Trees falling without reason, (or does your rampaging pet/creature count as a reason?) and let's not forget my rampaging creature, whos favourite hobbies was to eat people, throw people, poo on people and eat the peoples sheeps. But he was cute!

Maltor124
06-01-2007, 08:00 PM
I always thought the creature was the most pointless part of the Black and White games.. It would have been fun to just be a God and NOT have your 'pet' rampaging and destroying everything, or just being annoying. Although it did save many of my armies and towns with its Claws of Doom.

Pret.Sal
06-01-2007, 11:43 PM
k, maybe i was exaggerating about it being so easy, but once i figured out the games, the mods made it fun. If its really that hard, there is a really good trainer at filefront, check out http://blackandwhite2.filefront.com

Xerxes
06-02-2007, 01:26 AM
Heh, i know what you mean...Trees falling without reason, (or does your rampaging pet/creature count as a reason?) and let's not forget my rampaging creature, whos favourite hobbies was to eat people, throw people, poo on people and eat the peoples sheeps. But he was cute!

What I did was I trained my creature to be 100% Good (except for the world outside my city, where he regularly takes out his aggressions on invading Japanese armies). Then, I went and did construction and whatever else I wanted to do. That way, nothing bad happens and I get to do... stuff! Also, why is it possible for my Creature to be 94% fat and 100% fit?

Pret.Sal
06-02-2007, 07:07 PM
seriously, if you can get our creature strong enough and get miracles for him, he can take on all your invaders, also, just make walls and put some archers on, if theres no way for invaders to get in, they'll just stand there while getting shot by archers.

Muntu
06-03-2007, 04:35 PM
B&W 1 was friggin ugly. Maybe I'll try the second one again :D