Cheddar and others need to be stopped

[Juggz]

Seriously, look at his latest post for the reason why...

We need moderators before this forum goes further downhill and then off the cliff at the bottom of the hill.

[Maltor124]

Completely agree. All forums need moderators, and now that this one is becoming more popular we are quickly going to be found by FAR worse members than CHEDDAR was and Danny was. We need that moderator program Matt! Upload it! In the meantime, we are going to need to be more and more stiff against bad members and/or spammers. Of course, once they realize what they've done wrong and stop, they can be perfectly normal and good members. But until we have appointed moderators, I get the feeling we'll just have to act on our own accord to keep the quality of this forum up.

[RagdollTorturer]

Make the Senior Members ( if there are any ) Have moderator abilties, because I am sick of seeing a complaint thread in a Suggest Game Forum

:mad:

[Muntu]

Make the Senior Members ( if there are any ) Have moderator abilties, because I am sick of seeing a complaint thread in a Suggest Game Forum

:mad:

You need only over 100 (150?) posts to become senior member, so that wouldn't be very clever.. But hey, Beakless, me and Jokker has the most posts, make us moderators :D

[Jokker]

You need only over 100 (150?) posts to become senior member, so that wouldn't be very clever.. But hey, Beakless, me and Jokker has the most posts, make us moderators :D



Er. Not a good reason. I wouldn't say most of my posts are mod-worthy anyway. :/ I am pretty strict about appointing mods and stuff so...that might be why :\ Forms are the way to go. That way Matt can see every member's post himself and review it to see if said member is worthy.

Anyway. Matt will upload the form in his own time. A reminder is useful, but creating a new thread just for this is, well, not that useful. A PM, or maybe an e-mail would be okay. But flooding his inbox wouldn't.

So leave it at this. Matt will upload the form when he's ready. The spammers will be stopped by himself until the form is ready.

HOWEVER, you CAN do something to help. When you find a spamming post on the forums, do this:

1. Look at the time it was posted. If it's older than 6 hours, someone else has probably seen it and done the next step.

2. If it's not older than 6 hours, click the red triangle in the top-right corner of the post.

3. Add the message "Spam post in [board] board, I suggest doing [suggestion]".

4. Wait until Matt sees he has an e-mail.

5. Rejoice that you helped in the trophic circle of funny motion.


Until then, let them be. They're only adding to their punishment. :/

[Matthew]

Yeah, moderator apps is still hovering on my to-do list. Just been really busy lately :/

Also going to take on applications for review writers, too, if that interests anyone...

[Juggz]

Im interested in both positions, I check the forums daily so Mod i could do.
And i think i might be able to write a resonable review.

I think you should have a test review for the applications in this case, just to make sure they are good at it and you keep a high standard on your site :D

[Jokker]

Same here. Just started my own game review site, but I'm not good at advertising and stuff and it'll die out eventually. (Notice the "GAME" review site. Not physics game. So I ain't copying F-M ;)

I'm going to apply for both, I think. Summer break isn't a long time away either, so I've got plenty of time on my hands.

PS. Matt, you should have board-moderators, as in, they only have mod powers in a certain part of the forum (Physics Talk + Suggest a game, etc.) and only one Global Mod, who has powers all over the forum.

[Muntu]

I'd like to be a moderator, but reviews, hell no.
My english isn't that good... Yet

[Beakless]

Oh, wow, I'd love to write reviews for this website, it's something i've always wanted to do, although, i'm not shure if i'll be as good as matthew :o

As for being a mod... yeah, i'll only be one (if the chance ever comes) to make the forums a nicer place, not nessecerily to ban people (I don't really want to do that but will if there is no other way)...

But i'll probably never be any of these...

[Maltor124]

Wow.....A reviewing app? That would be very interesting, hearing everyone else's opinion on a physics game (as in a page review, not post), would be VERY cool.

Also, yeah, with summer break coming up, all of the non-adult dedicated members are going to have a LOT of time on their hands, so we won't really have to worry about any moderators not being able to fulfill their duties, that is, if you chose right.

[668.5]

You need only over 100 (150?) posts to become senior member, so that wouldn't be very clever.. But hey, Beakless, me and Jokker has the most posts, make us moderators :D

Heh heh, and possibly me, Im like the 4th...5th biggest poster?

[AquaGeneral]

I am seriosly not trying to get my posts up but I visit reguarly so they get topped up pretty high.

I should be atleast in the running for being a moderater.

[Uncarved]

Heh heh, and possibly me, Im like the 4th...5th biggest poster?
11th

Post count is a very, very, idiotic way of choosing moderators. Matthew needs to go through each application and approve them that way. Well, when he sends them out anyway.

[Maltor124]

11th

Post count is a very, very, idiotic way of choosing moderators. Matthew needs to go through each application and approve them that way. Well, when he sends them out anyway.

I am both amazed and freaked out at the same time time that you took the time to figure that out.

You are right, though, he shouldn't choose based on number of posts, but instead on the knowledge of the moderator, frequency of visits, on topic/off topic ratio, among whatever else he wants to add.

[Muntu]

frequency of visits

If that's one of the reasons to choose, then count me as a moderator.
I visit F-M forums ~10 a day ;D

[Maltor124]

Not so fast, I visit at least 20 times a day, or stay on for like an hour, just waiting for someone to post something so I can do something. AND YES I KNOW I NEED HELP. :p

[Beakless]

I wouldn't argue about these things, you saying "Well I visit the forums 20 times a day" won't make you a moderator, Matthew will decide who is fit to mod these forums, Ok?

[Maltor124]

I know that. He was saying "I should be moderator because I visit at least ten times a day." I was just saying that he's not the only one who visits a lot. I'm not saying I should be a moderator.

[Beakless]

I know that. He was saying "I should be moderator because I visit at least ten times a day." I was just saying that he's not the only one who visits a lot. I'm not saying I should be a moderator.

Sorry, my mistake...

I just hope matthew makes an announcement soon...

[Maltor124]

Ditto, he sure is taking his sweet time to upload the app.

[Muntu]

"I should be moderator because I visit at least ten times a day."

What? Isn't that a good reason to choose me? ;D
But yeah, Matthew decides

[Jokker]

I am both amazed and freaked out at the same time time that you took the time to figure that out.



Memberlist > Order by posts

I'm second to Beakless. That's mostly because I don't actually post THAT much in Physics talk. Only occasionally when something catches my eye. I do read every thread though. :/

Er. And right now I'm saying we should stop posting here until an update/announcement by Matthew...,k?

[Muntu]

Memberlist > Order by posts

I'm second to Beakless. That's mostly because I don't actually post THAT much in Physics talk. Only occasionally when something catches my eye. I do read every thread though. :/

Er. And right now I'm saying we should stop posting here until an update/announcement by Matthew...,k?

Oh no ma' boy, your third ;)
Yeah, what's the point, let's just wait for Matthews update.
(Sry I posted, i'll just be quiet from now on.. In this thread)

[Relys]

Yeah we need moderators, I myself have been here for a very long time!:D

We must end the huge amounts of pointless topics!

[Maltor124]

<whisper> Hey Relys... We sorta just agreed to not post here until Matthew updates..... so run and cover your tracks. </whisper> Oh...I just posted here, too, didn't I? Crap. *Runs away.*

Anyways... Matt, please post? We need an update, that way we can keep posting in this thread. :p Also, we really do want to see the progress you are having, and HURRY UP! Not to rush you, of course.

[Matthew]

http://www.fun-motion.com/news/join-the-team/

[ShortStuf7]

I seriously don't see the novelty in being a moderator. I can see the enjoyment out of being a forum admin, as I have made a dozen or so forums and websites in my lifetime- because you actually get to do something. When you admin a site, you can choose what style you want the site to be, and all other assorted things; but when you are a mod, there's really nothing to do except say that you are a mod and ban people. That seems like an utter waste of time and energy, because if you seriously visit a forum frequent enough to want to moderate it, then you really need a job or another source of entertainment- I can see checking a site every evening or so just to see if anything is new, but if you spend the "hour at a time [10 times a day] waiting for someone to do something" then that's just ridiculous.

A moderator isn't a serious position really. It's just a person who can choose who stays and who doesn't. Most teenagers are absolute failures at being moderators due to the fact that they get easily angered and ban whoever speaks against their opinions- and most of you, I assume, are average-minded teenagers (some may not be, but if you lurk here that much, most likely you are). I feel bad for Matt for having to pick from a bunch of power-hungry, badge-loving teenagers, just so he can go on with his life and website without the ever-sending nagging emails for posts to be deleted, or people to be banned.

Give him a break, stop trying to prove yourselves, it really doesn't matter: it's the internet guys.:rolleyes:

[Jokker]

I seriously don't see the novelty in being a moderator. I can see the enjoyment out of being a forum admin, as I have made a dozen or so forums and websites in my lifetime- because you actually get to do something. When you admin a site, you can choose what style you want the site to be, and all other assorted things; but when you are a mod, there's really nothing to do except say that you are a mod and ban people. That seems like an utter waste of time and energy, because if you seriously visit a forum frequent enough to want to moderate it, then you really need a job or another source of entertainment- I can see checking a site every evening or so just to see if anything is new, but if you spend the "hour at a time [10 times a day] waiting for someone to do something" then that's just ridiculous.

A moderator isn't a serious position really. It's just a person who can choose who stays and who doesn't. Most teenagers are absolute failures at being moderators due to the fact that they get easily angered and ban whoever speaks against their opinions- and most of you, I assume, are average-minded teenagers (some may not be, but if you lurk here that much, most likely you are). I feel bad for Matt for having to pick from a bunch of power-hungry, badge-loving teenagers, just so he can go on with his life and website without the ever-sending nagging emails for posts to be deleted, or people to be banned.

Give him a break, stop trying to prove yourselves, it really doesn't matter: it's the internet guys.:rolleyes:

I watch the forums daily, 10 times a day, one hour at a time. Do I need a job? No, I'm 15. I have nothing better to do. I enjoy posting on the forums, and when I'm bored, I go see what's new.

Also, moderators only ban people? Right, no. Moderators are there to help newbies, to move threads, to lock threads, to give warnings, etc, and so on and so forth. Banning a person is only a last resort. Also, I may be a teenager. But I am in no way average-minded, power-hungry or badge-loving. I am, myself, a game developer. I have other things to do, yet I always find time to visit this forum. Why? Because this happens in real life too. Say you have a job, and even so, once a week, you go out to a pub. Is that so wrong? Is it wrong that if you get fired and get the opportunity you may want to buy out the pub yourself and run it as you wish? No, it isn't.

Bottom-line, I only speak for myself, but being a moderator is not related to banning people, and most people here are mature enough not to ban on first mistake.

Oh, and just so you know, don't post in topics almost a month old.

[ShortStuf7]

I watch the forums daily, 10 times a day, one hour at a time. Do I need a job? No, I'm 15. I have nothing better to do. I enjoy posting on the forums, and when I'm bored, I go see what's new.

Also, moderators only ban people? Right, no. Moderators are there to help newbies, to move threads, to lock threads, to give warnings, etc, and so on and so forth. Banning a person is only a last resort. Also, I may be a teenager. But I am in no way average-minded, power-hungry or badge-loving. I am, myself, a game developer. I have other things to do, yet I always find time to visit this forum. Why? Because this happens in real life too. Say you have a job, and even so, once a week, you go out to a pub. Is that so wrong? Is it wrong that if you get fired and get the opportunity you may want to buy out the pub yourself and run it as you wish? No, it isn't.

Bottom-line, I only speak for myself, but being a moderator is not related to banning people, and most people here are mature enough not to ban on first mistake.

Oh, and just so you know, don't post in topics almost a month old.
There are no rules against it my lad, and you're not a moderator, don't act like one. You already show the eagerness to force things upon people. You don't act polite in your attention to self government, yet alone the actual rules to be set forth on the forums. If you would actually want to be a moderator, you should think about saying "you really aren't supposed to.." instead of the brusque, hole-in-the-door statement you have assigned there.

I watch the forums daily, 10 times a day, one hour at a time. Do I need a job? No, I'm 15. I have nothing better to do. I enjoy posting on the forums, and when I'm bored, I go see what's new.

Also, moderators only ban people? Right, no. Moderators are there to help newbies, to move threads, to lock threads, to give warnings, etc, and so on and so forth. Banning a person is only a last resort. Also, I may be a teenager. But I am in no way average-minded, power-hungry or badge-loving. I am, myself, a game developer. I have other things to do, yet I always find time to visit this forum. Why? Because this happens in real life too. Say you have a job, and even so, once a week, you go out to a pub. Is that so wrong? Is it wrong that if you get fired and get the opportunity you may want to buy out the pub yourself and run it as you wish? No, it isn't.

Bottom-line, I only speak for myself, but being a moderator is not related to banning people, and most people here are mature enough not to ban on first mistake.

Oh, and just so you know, don't post in topics almost a month old.
Help newbies, rarely; Move threads, lock threads and give warnings, common tasks which can all eventually result in disciplinary actions- which proves my point.

I watch the forums daily, 10 times a day, one hour at a time. Do I need a job? No, I'm 15. I have nothing better to do. I enjoy posting on the forums, and when I'm bored, I go see what's new.

Also, moderators only ban people? Right, no. Moderators are there to help newbies, to move threads, to lock threads, to give warnings, etc, and so on and so forth. Banning a person is only a last resort. Also, I may be a teenager. But I am in no way average-minded, power-hungry or badge-loving. I am, myself, a game developer. I have other things to do, yet I always find time to visit this forum. Why? Because this happens in real life too. Say you have a job, and even so, once a week, you go out to a pub. Is that so wrong? Is it wrong that if you get fired and get the opportunity you may want to buy out the pub yourself and run it as you wish? No, it isn't.

Bottom-line, I only speak for myself, but being a moderator is not related to banning people, and most people here are mature enough not to ban on first mistake.

Oh, and just so you know, don't post in topics almost a month old.

Alright, although your extended metaphor makes very little contact with the subject at hand, lets use an entirely different situation to put this task in perspective, shall we: Say Cheddar- the poor guy you've all come to accordance in completely detesting in all forms; Lets say he posts a thread about some random topic, like he has done before. You all, in your minds, see it as he has been given plenty of "warnings" of the sort from you, so what do you do; ban him, or give him yet another warning? Knowing most of you, just due to the fact that you want to be the "first to ban someone" and be the hero that saved Fun Motion from Cheddar, you would ban him, with no warning, out of shear, pent up, detest for the boy.

I watch the forums daily, 10 times a day, one hour at a time. Do I need a job? No, I'm 15. I have nothing better to do. I enjoy posting on the forums, and when I'm bored, I go see what's new.

Also, moderators only ban people? Right, no. Moderators are there to help newbies, to move threads, to lock threads, to give warnings, etc, and so on and so forth. Banning a person is only a last resort. Also, I may be a teenager. But I am in no way average-minded, power-hungry or badge-loving. I am, myself, a game developer. I have other things to do, yet I always find time to visit this forum. Why? Because this happens in real life too. Say you have a job, and even so, once a week, you go out to a pub. Is that so wrong? Is it wrong that if you get fired and get the opportunity you may want to buy out the pub yourself and run it as you wish? No, it isn't.

Bottom-line, I only speak for myself, but being a moderator is not related to banning people, and most people here are mature enough not to ban on first mistake.

Oh, and just so you know, don't post in topics almost a month old.
I'm sure glad you think so highly of yourself, and other members of the forums- we'll see.:rolleyes:

[Jokker]

There are no rules against it my lad, and you're not a moderator, don't act like one. You already show the eagerness to force things upon people. You don't act polite in your attention to self government, yet alone the actual rules to be set forth on the forums. If you would actually want to be a moderator, you should think about saying "you really aren't supposed to.." instead of the brusque, hole-in-the-door statement you have assigned there.

Erm. No. Don't post in topics a month old, especially when the topic is done to death, with identical topics popping up every week is pretty much an obvious thing to avoid. Also, I didn't act like a moderator. I told you it's not a good thing to do. Which it is, indeed, not. Also, how is it a 'hole-in-the-door' statement? I simply said "don't do that." because all the people have agreed to that, and it's a regular 'unwritten' law.


Help newbies, rarely; Move threads, lock threads and give warnings, common tasks which can all eventually result in disciplinary actions- which proves my point.


It only results in disciplinary actions because of people who think that way and become moderators. I would give no warnings for things like moving/locking threads. They are common mistakes. Don't act like you know what I'd do. (If that comment was directed at me. If it wasn't, it's your opinion)



Alright, although your extended metaphor makes very little contact with the subject at hand, lets use an entirely different situation to put this task in perspective, shall we: Say Cheddar- the poor guy you've all come to accordance in completely detesting in all forms; Lets say he posts a thread about some random topic, like he has done before. You all, in your minds, see it as he has been given plenty of "warnings" of the sort from you, so what do you do; ban him, or give him yet another warning? Knowing most of you, just due to the fact that you want to be the "first to ban someone" and be the hero that saved Fun Motion from Cheddar, you would ban him, with no warning, out of shear, pent up, detest for the boy.

Read all the topics in which everyone went and flamed Cheddar. Is there even one in which I'd flamed, or otherwise acted wrongfully? No. I even stood up to the rest and protected Cheddar when he had been unbanned and the rest were wrongfully judging him. Banning also is nothing I do (perma-ban that is) unless I consult with an admin. If no admin is around and someone is especially bad (100 topics in different boards with no real topic), I temp-ban them 3 days, and lift the ban as soon as an admin is online and can deal with it.


I'm sure glad you think so highly of yourself, and other members of the forums- we'll see.:rolleyes:

I don't know about the rest, but I trust my own judgement. I also trust Matthew and the fact that if a mod doesn't act correctly, he will be removed. Mistakes are a part of life, and forums as well, (even though we should avoid mistakes as much as possible), and if a moderator starts doing bad things, someone will notice. Be it Matt, another mod, or members, and it will all be fixed.

Also, if I did sound like I was acting mean and/or angry in the last post, I apologise, that post was done after I had 2 hours of sleep in two days, and my mind wasn't really on cue.

[futuramaguy42]

Not every mod just bans people. Check out ragdollsoft's forum's mods. There very helpful.

[ChazFox]

I feel post count shouldn't make a difference as to who's a mod and who's not. I have applied for a moderator position on here due to my experience as a mod/officer in other forums/clans/guilds. Clans and guilds might not seem like proper experience but being an officer in a guild is almost just like being a moderator for a forum. You have to try your best to make new members feel at home and help them when they need help, warn unruly members of their actions (Banning only when you feel that warning them isn't working) and generally try and help the clan/guild/forum become a better place :)

Personally I work on a similar system as to how my secondary school's punishment system worked. Unruly pupils got their name written up on the board on the first strike, a tick next to their name on the second strike, and removed on the third strike. Likewise, It'd be a verbal warning on the first strike, a more severe verbal warning on the second strike and a banning on the third strike. Although if there's no response to the first warning, I assume they're a spambot and ban them immediately. Likewise if they reply to my warning with a "fuk u ghey mod", I'll realise that warning them further isn't worth my time and I'll ban. Minor infractions (Asking questions in the wrong forum) usually just get a gentle nudge from me.

[Ghos7Soldier]

Mods are there to keep the forum in safety check. They're not there to do everyones bidding or ban a person or do this or that because someone asked them too.

I go to a forum that's pretty much like that, hell...the friend I'm with who's a super moderator there says the forum is WAY out of bounds on anything because no one listens to the ones who get what's going on.

Age doesn't mean jack, if you're mature enough to handle the situation well then that's all fine well and good. Also, neither does watching the forums 24/7 make you elgible to becoming a mod either. Your posts and your posts let alone are what makes you a mod.

As a mod, you're supposed to see everyone the same...even your friends on the forums. Which is the main reason why I don't want to become a moderator on the other forum. I have too many friends there that are cool and becoming a moderator would only make me ban them.

I'm not saying I'm elgible for mod either, in all actuality. I just gave the form for something to do over the summer. What we all didn't realize is that Matthew would be busy with other things before he could announce the new helping members of the Forum/Site.

Shortstuff and Jokker, You two arguing over what mods do isn't going to change the fact that mods are mods. Dependant on the forum status is what they'll do. Forums change.

I did say that Mods aren't there to do everyones bidding except they're task at hand. And I meant it too.

IF you would all just be patient, then you'll get your Moderators soon.

That's what i've been trying to say in a different sense inbetween the lines anyways.

Well, have fun atleast. And no, I'm not going to reply to some argument. If you want to do that with me, then do it by PM. I do agree that this thread is old and was meant for a different purpose. So, I'm going to follow suit and leave this thread be. I may be watching but I highly doubt I'll respond.

[ShortStuf7]

It's the internet guys. It doesn't matter.:rolleyes:

[Beakless]

It's the internet guys. It doesn't matter.:rolleyes:

Quite right.

You people shouldn't care so much about little things like this, after all, this is just a forum.