Wildebeest Games

[BerkleyJ]

Did you guys know that Vertigo Climbing game isn't the only game Wildebeest Games (http://www.wildebeestgames.com/) is making or has made. I searched the forums and didn't find anything about them or their other games and I think they deserve some attention. Check out there site (http://www.wildebeestgames.com/)

______________________ Current Work-in-progress _______________________

Vertigo
A physics based climbing game featuring 'powered ragdoll physics' so no canned animations. Your climber stretches and twists at your command to reach the holds you have selected with the result that each climb will be a truly unique experience. With tiring limbs and a variety of hold types, mental agility is just as important as brute strength and physical technique. Fully implemented rope system (if selected by the player) allowing for realistic belaying and limb tangling possibilities! A variety of environments, indoors, outdoors, man-made or natural, there will be routes to suit all tastes and abilities.

Video 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT3KTdvBAGA) Video 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJVYpQAjgzc) Video 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPhREBBc-Mw) Video 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nGMD4Fc4wk)

_________________________ Completed Games ___________________________

Detonate
With the in-built editor, create your own buildings using the library of hundreds of varied parts. Choose from brick, concrete, timber or steel materials, arrange them to your requirements - let your imagination run riot! Once your building is standing you switch to explosives placement mode, where you can choose the strength and timing of your charges. See how few charges you can use to bring the building down. Or perhaps you'd like to see how far you can fling the debris ?

Website (http://www.wildebeestgames.com/) Video 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtqpE8s6W3U) Video 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW_j7hIJ6s8) Video 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v10jAYd2WjI) Video 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0StMTHOjHQ) Demo (http://www.wildebeestgames.com/detonate/Detonate_Demo_v1_Setup.exe)

Purchase Detonate (http://www.shareit.com/product.html?productid=300356397) for 5 Euros ($8.07) Please download and try the demo (link above) before purchasing to ensure full compatibility with your hardware.


SimSail (There is a free sequel to this called X-Sail (http://www.x-sailgame.com/))
Experience the thrill of land yacht racing in this highly accurate simulator. Featuring realistic wind and chassis physics, customisable environments, up to ten variable A.I. opponents and a fully featured course editor to create your own tracks.

Website (http://www.wildebeestgames.com/Simsail/index.htm) Demo (http://www.wildebeestgames.com/Simsail/simsaildemosetupv1.2.exe)

Precision Driving Challenge
Only fast and accurate drivers need to apply. Accelerate, jump, corner, and slide your way to the fastest stage time over varied interactive and demanding tracks, where the only magin for error is a five thousand foot drop. Speed is essential but only if you can control it ! Features realistic vehicle physics, full replay mode and a track editor to create your own fiendish stages for sharing.

Website (http://www.wildebeestgames.com/TrickyTracks/index.htm) Demo (http://www.wildebeestgames.com/TrickyTracks/TrickyTracksDemov1.01.zip)

(I searched the site mentioned to purchase this but I don't think it is available anymore)

______________________ Work-in-progress Side Projects______________________

Scribble Demo (http://www.wildebeestgames.com/scribbleWIP.zip)
Draw freehand shapes then watch them come to life on the paper.

Moonshot
Program your rocket and see if yourcode will get the craft to the moon and back again.

Truck
Articulated lorry sim. Drive your truck around the yard without shedding the packages.

[JJA0]

Huh the scribble game kinda reminds me of Zany Doodle (http://www.fun-motion.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3016&highlight=zany) editor but nice demo/games

[Wrestler#1]

Kaboom looks kinda fun to me. Does anybody know when it will be released?

[IDeA]

Umm, what do you need to see those videos?

EDIT: Thanks.
Gonna miss filefront...

[BerkleyJ]

Umm, what do you need to see those videos?

WMV = Window Media Video. So, WMP (Window Media Player) :p

[Farbror Fazer]

the driving thing looks like a boring and slow version of trackmania

[scorp200]

is there any download for kaboom?

[psygo]

the driving thing looks like a boring and slow version of trackmania

it's not. It's much better and harder.

[flyboy95]

Those games are all WIP.
Kaboom was 2006.
Makes you hope we'll actually get Vertigo.
PLEASE FINISH IT MARK!

[Jow3st]

Too bad this site isn't updated. Looks like the projects are all dead.

[Wildebeest]

Howdy doody,

Sorry for not taking part for so long - my HDD died and to cut a long story short I've wound up with a new PC - persuading the bank manager took a little while so I've been out of circulation for a bit.

Yeah - it has to be said my site is not exactly updated 'often' however I'd like to just clarify a few things :-

- I do occasionally finish stuff - the Tricky Tracks and Simsail games were completed and sold a couple of years back as an example.

- The other little videos are of stuff I was just messing with (kaboom for example) I have a HDD full of half finished projects - there's only so many hours in a day- and some stuff is just, well, crap, whilst other stuff is better.

- On the Vertigo front my negotiations with some prospective sponsors for the game, kit manufacturers and the like, are looking promising, so I'm hoping to have a (branded) demo out soon (yeah right) honestly.
The you-tube stuff :-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT3KTdvBAGA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJVYpQAjgzc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPhREBBc-Mw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nGMD4Fc4wk

- I'm also working on a sequel to Tricky Tracks called Wacky Wheels (original I know) it has ghost cars and better track segments and particles and stuff - it should be better all round.
@ Farbror Fazer : Yeah I get what you're saying, but TT was never intended to be like Trackmania (TT came first anyways) its supposed to be more skill orientated than flat out speed.

- Finally - you might like to know that I wrote a sequel to Simsail called 'X-Sail'. This was for a mate who manufactures and sells land yachts and you can d/l the game which is totally free at http:\\www.x-sailgame.com (http://www.x-sailgame.com).
A quick video :-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s57C_GXdhqI
If you ever get the chance - land yachting for real is pretty cool.

cheers,

Mark

oh - to keep things tidy - perhaps I should update progress on Vertigo in this thread ? Mods- if you want to lock the other thread maybe ? - I dunno - just a thought.

[Eanfom]

it's not. It's much better and harder.

Harder yes, but better? I dunno about about that.

Trackmaina is a pretty awesome game

[flyboy95]

Howdy doody,

Sorry for not taking part for so long - my HDD died and to cut a long story short I've wound up with a new PC - persuading the bank manager took a little while so I've been out of circulation for a bit.

Yeah - it has to be said my site is not exactly updated 'often' however I'd like to just clarify a few things :-

- I do occasionally finish stuff - the Tricky Tracks and Simsail games were completed and sold a couple of years back as an example.

- The other little videos are of stuff I was just messing with (kaboom for example) I have a HDD full of half finished projects - there's only so many hours in a day- and some stuff is just, well, crap, whilst other stuff is better.

- On the Vertigo front my negotiations with some prospective sponsors for the game, kit manufacturers and the like, are looking promising, so I'm hoping to have a (branded) demo out soon (yeah right) honestly.
The you-tube stuff :-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT3KTdvBAGA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJVYpQAjgzc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPhREBBc-Mw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nGMD4Fc4wk

- I'm also working on a sequel to Tricky Tracks called Wacky Wheels (original I know) it has ghost cars and better track segments and particles and stuff - it should be better all round.
@ Farbror Fazer : Yeah I get what you're saying, but TT was never intended to be like Trackmania (TT came first anyways) its supposed to be more skill orientated than flat out speed.

- Finally - you might like to know that I wrote a sequel to Simsail called 'X-Sail'. This was for a mate who manufactures and sells land yachts and you can d/l the game which is totally free at http:\\www.x-sailgame.com (http://www.x-sailgame.com).
A quick video :-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s57C_GXdhqI
If you ever get the chance - land yachting for real is pretty cool.

cheers,

Mark

oh - to keep things tidy - perhaps I should update progress on Vertigo in this thread ? Mods- if you want to lock the other thread maybe ? - I dunno - just a thought.

YAY!
You are alive!
//Vaguely Semi-Harsh Statement retracted//
VERTIGO!

[MyNameIsJason]

Wildebeest..will you ever release a demo for Kaboom?

[BerkleyJ]

Wildebeest..will you ever release a demo for Kaboom?

Yes, Please. (I second that)

[samysam]

Yes, Please. (I second that)

We already demand another demo from him we can't expect more!

[scorp200]

there is only one game that look great
and its kaboom!!
so make the demo for kaboom first :P

[samysam]

there is only one game that look great
and its kaboom!!
so make the demo for kaboom first :P

You arn't even interested in the physics you just want to blow shit up!

[geel9]

You arn't even interested in the physics you just wan't to blow shit up!

Wha't doe's wan't mea'n?

[felcro]

You arn't even interested in the physics you just wan't to blow shit up!
I lol'd.... My golly gee i've been waiting for vertigo for almost a year now!! Mark , I hope you finish it soon! You have our trust that vertigo will be a mind blowing game!... -from Felcro and FM family.

[samysam]

Wha't doe's wan't mea'n?

lol sorry :] it became a habbit

[scorp200]

You arn't even interested in the physics you just want to blow shit up!
yes i do interested in physics but blow thing is fun too :)

[ENWOD]

I've gotta say that the land yachting games are brilliant, well done on those and thanks for pointing me to that free version :)

Cheers and keep up the good work :D

[ShaggE]

- I'm also working on a sequel to Tricky Tracks called Wacky Wheels


There can only be one:
http://www.blog.hebep.es/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/2132670852_1926bdc85b_o.png

:p

[samysam]

There can only be one:

:p

3d realms ha ha...

[Cries]

I WANNA KABOOM!!! Call me a nerd but I actually spent hours and hours blowing up stuff with Operation Cleaner 2. It is so goddamn fun. And now I discover a 3D demolition game ._.

Please, finish it. I will even pay you for a copy (<= 20$). *cries hysterically*

[gompasta]

I WANNA KABOOM!!! Call me a nerd but I actually spent hours and hours blowing up stuff with Operation Cleaner 2. It is so goddamn fun. And now I discover a 3D demolition game ._.

Please, finish it. I will even pay you for a copy (<= 20$). *cries hysterically*

You fit your name :D

[blind3001]

I was just looking for something on the game Vertigo when I found that he just posted a new video of kaboom on youtube. What a coincidence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP-s0ciHui0&feature=channel_page

[Confused111]

That's some hot shit.

[BerkleyJ]

:eek: Me Want! That is all.

[flyboy95]

Look at the info for the video.
As well as "Kaboom" Wildbeest Games main project at the minute is "Vertigo" a climbing game.
Look out for some "Vertigo" news in the very near future.

YAY!!!

Edit:
Howdy all,

If you fancy, take a look at the latest incarnation of my demolition game :-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP-s0ciHui0

Its one of those projects you keep going back to when you lose the motivation on stuff you really should be doing if you know what I mean ?

(btw for those of you who have a long memory - I'm still working on my climbing game 'Vertigo' its just taking a while to implement some sponsor requests)

cheers,

Mark
Found this on blitzmax.
Linky:
http://www.blitzmax.com/Community/posts.php?topic=85321

Edit 2:
Just looked at wildebeestgames.com and they updated with details for Vertigo. Nothing new, but shows signs of life.

[Munchkin9]

thank god there still working on this. It is going to be one revolutionary game. Imho powered ragdolls are going to be an important step in game development in the near future.

[flyboy95]

Hi Guys, Just got an email from mark judd who I email asking him to update this thread. This is what he said.

Hi,

Cheers for your mail.
Vertigo development has been slow just recently due to a couple of issues
over in-game sponsor equipment. I'm hoping to have most of the details
tidied up this coming weekend after a couple of meetings and will update the
fun-motion thread next week when I have some definate news.

I'm spending my free time whilst waiting working on my demolition game
'kaboom' which I'm looking to get a demo out of in the next few days.

Thanks for taking an interest,

cheers,
Mark

[MACINTOSH USER]

YES!!!! Awesomeness!!!!!

[MyNameIsJason]

YESSSS!!!!! He is making a demo for Kaboom!!! YES YES YESSS!!!

[BerkleyJ]

Yay, Kaboom! I can't wait.

(I updated the OP to match all the latest news and websites changes)

[spikerdude111]

YES...:D
finally the physics of pc have improved and become AWSSOMENESS!!...

can't wait...:p

[BerkleyJ]

It's been four days hopefully that demo comes soon.

[x13radx]

It's been four days hopefully that demo comes soon.

I wouldnt hold your breath.

[cahocachi]

New Kaboom video!

W00T!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PFrTIF100M

[MyNameIsJason]

OMG!!!! Looks alot better!!!! Hopefully that will get realeased as a demo soon :D

[Colescheffler]

OMG!!!! Looks alot better!!!! Hopefully that will get realeased as a demo soon :D
I hope so, that looks awesome! It's like a 3D version of Operation Cleaner! :D

[Wildebeest]

I've just uploaded a quick 'compatibility test' if you fancy a try.
You'll need a decent PC with reasonable card to get the best out of the game though.

Download it here (6.5Mb ZIP file) :-
http://www.wildebeestgames.com/kaboom/kaboomcompatibilitytest.zip
Unzip to a folder of your choosing, take care to keep folder structure intact.

Since this is just a test to see how the game runs, there is no building creator, and you cannot modify the position of the charges in this demo.

During gameplay, if you press and hold 'i' you'll get some debug info - if you have time i'd appreciate some feedback on pc specs. and what spare ms you're getting.

Many thanks,

cheers,

Mark

[Colescheffler]

I've just uploaded a quick 'compatibility test' if you fancy a try.
You'll need a decent PC with reasonable card to get the best out of the game though.

Download it here (6.5Mb ZIP file) :-
http://www.wildebeestgames.com/kaboom/kaboomcompatibilitytest.zip
Unzip to a folder of your choosing, take care to keep folder structure intact.

Since this is just a test to see how the game runs, there is no building creator, and you cannot modify the position of the charges in this demo.

During gameplay, if you press and hold 'i' you'll get some debug info - if you have time i'd appreciate some feedback on pc specs. and what spare ms you're getting.

Many thanks,

cheers,

Mark
AWEOSME!!!! I can't wait to try this, even though you can barely do anything with it!

Hopefully this will hold my excitement for a while! :P

EDIT: Is there supposed to be a frame limit at 24fps? Because that is all I'm getting at all times.

[Wildebeest]

Yes thats right - its locked to approx. 25fps (i.e a maximum of 40ms per frame).

If you hold the 'i' key down it'll tell you how many spare ms you have out of the 40 allowed (the higher the better).

EDIT : I should explain - the physics engine will adjust according to how hard its being worked - if the figure is >0 then all is good.
If its >3 most of the time, the pc is easily coping with the work - if its 1 or 0 most of the time - its not going so well !
As long as the spare ms is >0 the graphics engine will maintain a fixed frame rate of 25fps.

cheers,

Mark

[Colescheffler]

Yes mate - its locked to approx. 25fps (i.e a maximum of 40ms per frame).

If you hold the 'i' key down it'll tell you how many spare ms you have out of the 40 allowed (the higher the better).

cheers,

Mark
I have a 9800GT, Intel Core 2 Duo processor at 3.4ghz, 4GB of RAM, and I am getting around 10-15 spare ms (10 only when the building was collapsing), and while I was holding down "i" and playing at the same time, it crashed. (just letting you know)

[Wrestler#1]

about 15/40

CPU: DualCore 1.86x2
GPU: Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX 756mb
RAM: 3GB (DDR 2 I think)

[IDeA]

15/40 when nothing was happening.
5/40 during the explosions.
8/40 after everything collapsed.

CPU: DualCore 2.50 GHz
GPU: Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT
RAM:3,25 GB (DDR2)

[MyNameIsJason]

Wow.... i get 0..... :( bummer DX

[Colescheffler]

Wow.... i get 0..... :( bummer DX
Yeah, quite a few people probably won't get spare ms, so there will have to be some graphical settings he will need to put in eventually, but now, it's just a stability test, he's making sure that it works on a lot of different systems.

[MyNameIsJason]

My computer is so lame... it's a peice of garbage and i can't afford a good one D:

[h4tt3n]

... if you have time i'd appreciate some feedback on pc specs. and what spare ms you're getting.

Nice demo Mark! Here are my specs:

PC: HP pavilion dv6000 (laptop)
CPU: AMD turion 64 dual core
GPU: nvidia geeforce 8400M GS

It ran decently with a steady framerate of 40 and unused ms varying from 0 to ~30 depending on view angle and whatnot.

Cheers,
Mike

[scorp200]

wow kaboom is amazing cant wait for the full game
its run perfect on my copmuter
cpu:intel core 2 duo cpu 2.2GHZ
graphic card:geforce 9800GT
and in game unused frame ms\frame is always on 7-11\40

[BerkleyJ]

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
Athlon 64 3500 2.22GHz
3.00 GB RAM (its like PC2100 lol)
XFX 8600GTS

I get about 15/40 with the building up, but it's drops to 0/40 as soon as it anything happens and stays at 0/40 afterward. Seems to run good though, and better than Operation cleaner too.

Release a more featured demo please please please.

[the_reaper127]

well it runs pretty fine on my crappy dimension 3000, idk if the frame count works or if its correct but it stays on 0/40. idk but it runs fast

[geel9]

Son,

game is awesome.

Seriously...
game is awesome.

[Confused111]

I don't think Imma get the full game. I suck at making buildings.

[flyboy95]

I get 15-20 while the bulding is up then 0 once it's down.
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T8100 (2.10 GHz)
Graphics: 8400M GT PU
Sony FZ VGN-FZ35GN running Vista Business.
Thanks for the update btw.

[yuwei]

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E5200 (2.5GHz)
RAM: 4GB
Graphics: ATI Radeon 4850
OS: Windows 7

With the building intact, around 20/40 but when the building starts falling, it jumps around from 0 ~ 1X, i couldn't really see it properly, it was jumping really fast.

The demo was freaking awesome, even blowing it up with the default charges a few times, the results everytime was different from each other.

[geel9]

I made a video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwtMCdj55eo&feature=channel

[IDeA]

I made a video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwtMCdj55eo&feature=channel

You can shoot balls?!
Why don't the instructions say that?

[jackc45v2]

You can shoot balls?!

.well they do show you that on the videos.

[Mombasa]

AMD 5050e Dual-Core 2.8Ghz
2 GB RAM
Nvidia 8800GT 256MB
Windows XP Home SP2

13-15/40 before the destruction, 7-9 during. Can't wait for the actual game.

[jackc45v2]

AMD 5050e Dual-Core 2.8Ghz
2 GB RAM
Nvidia 8800GT 256MB
Windows XP Home SP2

13-15/40 before the destruction, 7-9 during. Can't wait for the actual game.

well my pc is a lump of crap it lags when i play the demo so its gonna lag like crazy when i play the full version.

[IDeA]

.well they do show you that on the videos.

But it doesn't say that the demo we got is the same version as the one in the videos.

[jackc45v2]

But it doesn't say that the demo we got is the same version as the one in the videos.
Nope it doesnt.

[MyNameIsJason]

Jack how come your posting in like every thread? you posted last in like 5 threads...

[jackc45v2]

Jack how come your posting in like every thread? you posted last in like 5 threads...

Because i like talking.

[MyNameIsJason]

Ok then whatever.

[jackc45v2]

Ok then whatever.

Omg lol make your mind up, you change your avatar every 2 seconds.

[Zcool31]

Sexylicious! Reminds me of an old 2d game called Exploding Crapola: Helicopter Cocaphony 2! Find it at Vertigogaming.net

Ps my 8800 didn't even break a sweat. No noticable decrease in FPS at all during anything! Though it really does seem like the game should be running at 60 fps rather than 25, the physics seem slow, and the controls unresponsive..

[MyNameIsJason]

Omg lol make your mind up, you change your avatar every 2 seconds.

so what your watching me?

But wildebeest... you should make a demo of your old version... i know its crap but the new version runs like shit on the computer im on now..

[jackc45v2]

so what your watching me?

No i just noticed everytime i posted after you, your avatar had changed.

[flyboy95]

Offtopic: Shut up. Honestly, who cares?
Ontopic: Now all we need is a vertigo demo! Or finish kaboom.

[Z3R052]

I cant get it to run. I window pops up and then closes as soon as I run it.

DualCore 1.83 GHz
Nvidia GeForce 8800M GTS
4 GB of ram

[Colescheffler]

I cant get it to run. I window pops up and then closes as soon as I run it.

DualCore 1.83 GHz
Nvidia GeForce 8800M GTS
4 GB of ram
Hm, that is weird, can you run a lot of other games? It could be your drivers.

[Mombasa]

I know you might want to work on Vertigo, but kaboom is just too amazing to not be finished first.

[Z3R052]

Yeah all my drivers are up to date. It is strange cause it seams my spec's are around the same as everyone elses.

[Colescheffler]

Yeah all my drivers are up to date. It is strange cause it seams my spec's are around the same as everyone elses.
Yeah, the only real thing that's different is that you have the mobile version, maybe mobile chips aren't supported? :confused:

[Z3R052]

Most commercial games say that on the box but I have never had any problems.

[Colescheffler]

Most commercial games say that on the box but I have never had any problems.
Well it might just be this game.

[flyboy95]

New Kaboom Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PFrTIF100M
Found it on the blitzmax kaboom thread.

[Nosbox]

I'm getting a constant 18-23 unused frames before, during and after the demolition.

Specs: Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q8300 @ 2.5 GHz
RAM: 4GB
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GT 230 512MB
OS: Windows Vista

[.wakka.]

Well the testing I've done is kool, lots of features.

Works fine on my XP athlon x2 rig 8400 gpu

Had it running on Windows 7 as well at home.

Messing with the power of the explosives and camera angles is fun .

Good stress relief at work for me.

As with all things it will be done when its done, thats when i stop unplugging his keyboard from his pc.

heck it works on Vista with onboard Intel Graphics

[MyNameIsJason]

New Kaboom Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PFrTIF100M
Found it on the blitzmax kaboom thread.

Wasn't that video already posted?

[IDeA]

Wasn't that video already posted?

It was, a page or two back.

[geel9]

You can change the power of the explosives?

[Chrupencjusz]

I already lost hope for vertigo...

[jackc45v2]

I already lost hope for vertigo...

I cant wait for it to come out. I thinnk it will be a great game.

[Colescheffler]

You can change the power of the explosives?
How do we change the power?!

[.wakka.]

I have the power :D

[flyboy95]

How? Don't be an ass. TELL US!!!

[.wakka.]

I drew this up in the editor and frapped it, its using about 8 explosives in all in different positions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm8gtssl-Ls

To explain a little.

I know the dev, and I test things for him from time to time.


I'm just waiting on his newer version currently to test...

[MyNameIsJason]

How did you make your own buildings?

[flyboy95]

How did you make your own buildings?


To explain a little.
I know the dev, and I test things for him from time to time.
I'm just waiting on his newer version currently to test...

That's how. He has the editor because he knows Mark or someone else. I want it!!! But if you posted it then everyone would have it. Not good.

[BerkleyJ]

Any news on kaboom?

[flyboy95]

Having a look around...

Edit: Nope, Nothing on their homesite, blitzmax or youtube. Sorry.

[Jolson]

I don't know if anyone would actually care, but I have a Youtube video of destroying the building from inside using balls.

o.o - o.O - O.O - O.o - o.o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1LTlySPcuo)

[flyboy95]

New video is new.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrbcP_AoRxs

Btw holy crap that was amazing.

[Shinji]

What happened to the Kaboom link? D:

[Fox-Fool]

Hmm... speaking of Wildebeast, how's progress of Vertigo?
I can't seem to find anything.

[Colescheffler]

Hmm... speaking of Wildebeast, how's progress of Vertigo?
I can't seem to find anything.
Where are we supposed to find anything out about Wildebeest's games? They should have a blog of some sort at least.

[spikerdude111]

its not moving...
maybe its dead?

could be true
:P

[MyNameIsJason]

We need updates on Kaboom!
But seriously, give the guy a break, he might be secretly working on these games.

[Colescheffler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0StMTHOjHQ&feature=sub

A new update from Wildebeest Games! Apparently Kaboom is now called Detonate, and a demo version will be release soon, and then after that, the full version will be available to purchase!!

[Farbror Fazer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0StMTHOjHQ&feature=sub

A new update from Wildebeest Games! Apparently Kaboom is now called Detonate, and a demo version will be release soon, and then after that, the full version will be available to purchase!!

That looks kind of cool

[flyboy95]

Yes!!!! Finally!!!

[Spartan_344]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0StMTHOjHQ&feature=sub

A new update from Wildebeest Games! Apparently Kaboom is now called Detonate, and a demo version will be release soon, and then after that, the full version will be available to purchase!!

I cant Wait =)!!!!

[flyboy95]

Not being pessimistic, but doesn't this sound like the time they said Vertigo would be out in a few days. A few months ago.

[shinsvaka93]

a agree with ^ i was thinking the same thing when this announcement came up.. sorry guys :3

[IDeA]

and then after that, the full version will be available to purchase!!

And my hype just got murdered.

[Spartan_344]

The demo is out... haven't tryed it yet though

[flyboy95]

Played the demo. Honestly... It's shit. You only have one level you can destroy and it's not very fun. The full version will be better but I won't buy it.

[shinsvaka93]

same, the demo is shit. I thought he would be smart enough to release this for free giving all the feedback he is getting about it. *sigh* some people just dont get it that if you make a OK indie game, you probobly wont sell many copies.

[flyboy95]

I think the dev is a little bit too... Well, let's just say silly. He's gone about this the wrong way. One tech preview, no news for months, then blam! shitty game.

TBH the tech preview was better.

[shinsvaka93]

yea.i liked the tech preview alot more... i dunno.... it just had a better playability and feeling to it.

[edthefirst]

same, the demo is shit. I thought he would be smart enough to release this for free giving all the feedback he is getting about it. *sigh* some people just dont get it that if you make a OK indie game, you probobly wont sell many copies.

How is that smart? He makes absolutely no money that way. You just don't get how economics works. The fact of the matter is that he probably needs money, and devoting months of time to something that creates absolutely no income is going to be counterproductive. This game was made with a commercial mindset. Had it been developed simply as a free game then there would be no fallback.

I think the dev is a little bit too... Well, let's just say silly. He's gone about this the wrong way. One tech preview, no news for months, then blam! shitty game.

TBH the tech preview was better.

This is no different than the tech previews. You can still throw the balls around (sounds slightly pornographic doesn't it). The only difference is that you can now place explosives.


I don't understand. Everyone went crazy over the tech demo, ready to eat out of the Dev's hands and now he releases essentially the same demo, just with a few changes and everyone instantly claims the game is shit and bash it to the fervor of the L4D2 boycott group or the MW2 community. Give it a chance, obviously everyone did the first time, what's the difference now?

Rant mode disengaged.

[flyboy95]

**lots of text**
First of all, have you played it? Just try it. You'll see. The tech demo just feels right. Not to mention that no one had any news for months.

[Wildebeest]

Hi,

Just wanted to clear a few things up.

Firstly, sorry for the lack of communication, it's not my strong point (to say the least) so apologies if you got out of shape over not hearing anything.
It's something I'm looking to address in the near future.
A blog or something I guess.

Secondly I'm at a loss as to why the tech demo is seen as being better than the detonate demo, they are the same game - if anything the changes to the code should just improve the fps, etc ?

Thirdly, I have more or less run out of time on this project. I only have so much time available and it's become apparent that to implement everything I had intended to would take at my work rate - well - lets just say next year would be a fair bet.

So I have tidied up what I have, and rather than keep people waiting for ever, figured I would just release it.

In summary - the full version is essentially what you see in the demo, except you can make your own structures.

If you feel like putting a little cash my way in a day or so then thanks very much - it will help towards getting some of my other projects finished and published - if not, then fair enough.

cheers,

Mark

[UberGimp]

I love it when the developers contact us.

Makes all of those who bitched about the game feel sorry. :cool:
Anyways, I think it's cool. I'll be looking forward to the full version

[TheSilentBob]

When you're new to a forum, you normally don't start upsetting people. Well I don't want to do that either, however, I have been reading the posts on Kaboom, which later became Detonate. A change of name, some graphics and actual optimization doesn't sound that bad. Fair enough when the tech demo appeared everyone went nuts. It's in our human nature to make things only to watch them fall apart or rather destroying them with a big bang. This game seemed to come up with that OH so sweet relief of stress by blowing the crap out of buildings. Now, I've played the tech demo and now the "official" demo. It doesn't seem like much of a change to me. Sure, the explosions and the textures look better (as best as they can on the engine) but in essence it feels the same. So if anyone can give a more solid statement of why in Jeebus's name is the game shit now, please, do tell.
From my part, hats off to the dev. Dude, congrats on the project, for sticking to it and for almost delivering. I will most definitely support you and buy the game. For everybody else, Cheers!

[edthefirst]

First of all, have you played it? Just try it. You'll see. The tech demo just feels right. Not to mention that no one had any news for months.

Yo dawg, you think I would be ranting without actually having played both? Obviously I don't see what you do, please enlighten me. How does it just feel right, because both of them are exactly the same to me.

[shinsvaka93]

Yo dawg, you think I would be ranting without actually having played both? Obviously I don't see what you do, please enlighten me. How does it just feel right, because both of them are exactly the same to me.

Ill try my best to answer with him.

The way you place the explosives and the way it handles when you are trying to make something blow up. it just doesnt feel right, the amont of menu's you have to go through just to get to the ability to place a charge and then blow it up.. flyboy if i got it right, say so. or just say whatever you want :3

[x13radx]

I havent played the tech demo or seen any of the videos so I havent had any expectations, and ive played the demo and massively enjoyed it. I am going to support this guy and buy the full game, its not expensive and, heck, if I get just 30 minutes of enjoyment out of it at least I will know ive supported someone who appreciates it rather than pumping tons of cash into multi-national corporations such as EA.

Well done Wildebeest, I am going to buy the full game now.

[flyboy95]

Right, well speaking of that, the full game is available for purchase at 5 euros. Considering buying it.

[Colescheffler]

I, personally, really liked the demo, I wasn't really expecting it, so it was nice to get something before release! Now, I will most likely be buying this game, this guy seems nice, and he deserves it, when do you see a game with destruction like this, being able to create the awesome destructable things, AND get to place explosives?! Wow, and only $8.07?!?!?! That is an awesome deal! :)

[shinsvaka93]

oohhh.. only 8.07? i was expecting him to sell it for about 15-20 dollars. which would get me kinda wondering why? but 8.07 is a reasonable price. considering buying.

[Smada]

Finally I have something to play around with, while waiting for Vertigo ;)
And honestly, at 5€... without hesitation.
Bank transfer is on its way and as my bank is slow as hell I'll be playing in 4 or 5 days... I really should get a paypal account. :rolleyes:

[What?]

Played the demo, loved it, bought it. Great game :) Well worth the wait, congrats to the creator. Does anyone who has bought it have any buildings they have made to share?

[valpster]

Bought the game, it's so much fun.. I just hope there will be more updates.

Anyways, great game!

[flyboy95]

Anyone who's bought the game, out of sheer curiosity, what : exactly is the setup file for the full game called?

[valpster]

Anyone who's bought the game, out of sheer curiosity, what : exactly is the setup file for the full game called?

out of sheer curiosity, why would you be interested?

I bought it...

[flyboy95]

Well, out of sheer curiosity, I want to see, on second thought, nevermind.

[Smada]

After playing around with Detonate a few hours now, I must say: It is really great fun, but could be so much better with a few minor tweaks:

-There should be a hotkey for going a level up and down in "Create"-mode, it woud speed up building a lot. If you are building a skyscraper you could just press the hotkey and click your mouse in alternation to create a "pile" very fast. Would be easy to implement and would just speed everything up.

-Speeding up the building process... not a minor tweak but really (pretty please ;)) needed: copy&paste. It would make building so much faster and you could concentrate on building instead laying floor tiles for half an hour...

-Why does the bomb laying menu change size with distance to the bomb? If you're to far away it's to small and if you are inside a building laying bombs in narrow corridors it's so big you can't handle it very well. You get used to it, but if it's an easy on/off switch switch it off, please.

Last but not least: Why does Esc escape to main menu without asking? - I somehow always try to reset a house by pressing Esc... it just seems the right thing to do, and I always end up in main menu. :o



That said: It's really worth the money, it's great fun and I hope we will get some house-sharing started here on fun-motion

Edit: and a little skyscraper to get things going

[Colescheffler]

Steelbonr? Lol.

I'll be sure to check it out when I buy the game, which should be tonight! :)

[flyboy95]

After playing around with Detonate a few hours now, I must say: It is really great fun, but could be so much better with a few minor tweaks:

-There should be a hotkey for going a level up and down in "Create"-mode, it woud speed up building a lot. If you are building a skyscraper you could just press the hotkey and click your mouse in alternation to create a "pile" very fast. Would be easy to implement and would just speed everything up.

-Speeding up the building process... not a minor tweak but really (pretty please ;)) needed: copy&paste. It would make building so much faster and you could concentrate on building instead laying floor tiles for half an hour...

-Why does the bomb laying menu change size with distance to the bomb? If you're to far away it's to small and if you are inside a building laying bombs in narrow corridors it's so big you can't handle it very well. You get used to it, but if it's an easy on/off switch switch it off, please.

Last but not least: Why does Esc escape to main menu without asking? - I somehow always try to reset a house by pressing Esc... it just seems the right thing to do, and I always end up in main menu. :o



That said: It's really worth the money, it's great fun and I hope we will get some house-sharing started here on fun-motion

Edit: and a little skyscraper to get things going
Mate, we're not developers. You need to tell this to Mark Judd. Which you can't. :D

[squishyy]

this is a really fun game :)

anyone got any building they want to share? :p

[Nosbox]

Mate, we're not developers. You need to tell this to Mark Judd. Which you can't. :D

He can, Mark is a registered user on these forums by the name "Wildebeest (http://fun-motion.com/forums/member.php?u=2024)".

[valpster]

@Smada

Great fun bringing down ur building! must have been a lot of work creating that!

Thx,

I'll upload something soon

[flyboy95]

He can, Mark is a registered user on these forums by the name "Wildebeest (http://fun-motion.com/forums/member.php?u=2024)".

I know. Unfortunately, he hasn't been posting very recently. Although, it says that he was on today. :confused:

[Smada]

hmm steelbonr... it was meant to be steel(back)bone... nothing dirty in there ;)

Regarding my feedback: What he does of it is of course his choice, I'm quite happy with the game as it is now and you certainly get used to the controls.
Which of course doesn't mean they couldn't be better :)


That said, I would be happy if some of you could test whether this building works for you, it's the second half of my skyscraper and it crashes my game with a memory access error. :(
I tried it two times now, and everytime the second tower is ready it crashes my game in destroy mode, the first try even crashed building mode.

[turunen45]

@Smada

Great fun bringing down ur building! must have been a lot of work creating that!

Thx,

I'll upload something soon

I guess you somehow found your full game setup name ;)

[flyboy95]

That was me. :D And no, I never did.

[turunen45]

Well too bad :D. I just hate when i have finally build something huge and detailed and go to "Destroy" it screams at me about some memory violations.

[loukythe]

where i can download more bulding?

[turunen45]

Where i can download more buildings?

Nowhere.
There are no official forums or servers where anyone could upload their buildings. but here is one that i made.

Extract it to your Detonate\Buildings folder.

[MyNameIsJason]

bulding? lol
And what's up with his note? It's french lol... Bot I suppose?

[turunen45]

bulding? lol
And what's up with his note? It's french lol... Bot I suppose?

or a forum lurker. they write only when they cant figure things out himself.

[loukythe]

yes i am french excuse me for my english ^^

[BerkleyJ]

After a few days of not being able to obtain the game by any other means I resorted to buying it. For my stubbornness i had to pay 13 cents more. The price in now $8.20

[gompasta]

Bought it a few days ago. Played it for AGES since

[LUC4S]

Just dled the full one, it's amazing.

[valpster]

I guess you somehow found your full game setup name ;)

Yeah by paying for it ;)

[NinjaNinja7]

Bought it a few days ago. Played it for AGES since

and by "ages", you mean a few days...?
lol

[Sp00nFaCe]

Hey y'all.

Ima new to these ere' parts.

Anyways, that game is awesome, I've been looking for something like this for some time, really satisfying, if anyone is unsure on purchasing, GET IT!!

Also, check out meh tower :D

[flyboy95]

Welcome to Fun-Motion. Since I don't own the game, I'll assume your level was good. If you want to survive in "these parts" read the stickies, be polite and don't be an idiot.

[Colescheffler]

Welcome to Fun-Motion. Since I don't own the game, I'll assume your level was good. If you want to survive in "these parts" read the stickies, be polite and don't be an idiot.
Wow, nice greeting... :\ ...Same goes for you, no offense...

Anyways, I'll be sure to try your level out once I'm done with some other things! :D

[flyboy95]

Thanks Cole. Yes, I did see it. It doesn't matter.

[Sp00nFaCe]

Meh, I've seen worse greetings :P

Nice work on the Towers, 'Smada' and 'Turunen' !

My level wasn't that great, and Flyboy, you should get the game, for a cheap price on something so awesome, it's definitely worth it.

[Colescheffler]

Flyboy, you should get the game, for a cheap price on something so awesome, it's definitely worth it.
Yeah, usually, most Indy game are overpriced, but I would have to say this is underpriced! It is just so fun!

[gompasta]

and by "ages", you mean a few days...?
lol

Well.... Yeah =p

i meant it by playing all day every day

[MikkoK]

No news about Vertigo? :(

[flyboy95]

Not anywhere I know of. These guys need a blog.

[Jow3st]

Good thing this can't be pirated yet. Now people have to pay for it and not get an unfair advantage at getting a program.

[Smada]

Good thing this can't be pirated yet. Now people have to pay for it and not get an unfair advantage at getting a program.

Which means you searched for days and days and are now desperate enough to spend your hard earned 5 bucks on it - at least if you don't get a PM within the next weeks? :D


I'd still like a patch for the whole two many pieces crashes...
It kind of ruined it for me - the editor isn't something you can make a nice building within 5 minutes, it will take a lot of time - and having finally finished a building just to discover that the skybridge that links your two towers is the element that is too much for the game to handle is pretty frustrating...

[timmah]

Good thing this can't be pirated yet. Now people have to pay for it and not get an unfair advantage at getting a program.

I somehow found one on rapidshare, shame.

[Colescheffler]

I'd still like a patch for the whole two many pieces crashes...
It kind of ruined it for me - the editor isn't something you can make a nice building within 5 minutes, it will take a lot of time - and having finally finished a building just to discover that the skybridge that links your two towers is the element that is too much for the game to handle is pretty frustrating...
It might just be your computer...

[ThatHIppyMan]

I can't buy this game, unfortunatly.
I use yahoo as my primary email address, and can only pay for this using a debit card.
When I go through the check out process, I can not continue with the purchase because Wildebeest's retailer does not allow free email address.

Seriously, this is the only retailer that I've come across that has this rule. WTF, share*it? WTF, Wildebeest?

[flyboy95]

Hmmm, It should work with a hotmail account. So make one, set it to forward all messages to your yahoo and use that.

[Colescheffler]

Hmmm, It should work with a hotmail account. So make one, set it to forward all messages to your yahoo and use that.
Did you use a hotmail account? It says they aren't supported.

[flyboy95]

I haven't used a hotmail account. :D I haven't bought it.
Try a mail.com account.

[Take-Out_Ninja]

Ugh.

Vertigo is never coming out.

[Wildebeest]

Sorry for the bump, but wanted to let folk know I have added a different payment option on my site for those having problems with Digital River.

Working on a detonate building pack to be released before Christmas (free of course) for use with the full version of the game.

cheers,

Mark

[flyboy95]

Sorry for the bump, but wanted to let folk know I have added a different payment option on my site for those having problems with Digital River.

Working on a detonate building pack to be released before Christmas (free of course) for use with the full version of the game.

cheers,

Mark
You there! What's happening with Vertigo?! Get a blog man!

[Wildebeest]

A blog you say ?

@shuffles feet and looks downcast

Its on the list of 'things to do' to be honest. I'll try to get something sorted over the Christmas holidays.

Mark

[flyboy95]

Thank yee very much.
Edit: http://wildebeestgames.blogspot.com/2009/12/finally-but-dont-expect-too-much.html#comment-form

[Uberubert]

I've made a few buildings for detonate. My entire "buildings"-folder is just 23K when zipped, so I'm just putting up the entire folder.

[Matt08642]

I just bought this game after finding the demo online and I must say, WOW!!

I never thought it would be this fun, so simple.

[Wildebeest]

Howdy,

Thought you might like to know, I've uploaded some instructions on how to make your own custom textures and wall strength definitions in the detonate game.

If you go to the Wildebeest Games website, there's a link to a zip file containing the instructions and a couple of files you need - it's at the bottom of the detonate page.

cheers,

Mark
http://www.wildebeestgames.com

[flyboy95]

New blog post in regards to progress (on vertigo!) here (http://wildebeestgames.blogspot.com/2010/01/january-just.html)
New revamped website here (http://www.wildebeestgames.com)
GO!

[Wildebeest]

Hello again,

I've just given the Tricky Tracks game an overhaul, now includes replays, ghost cars and some other stuff.

http://www.wildebeestgames.com/trickytracks.htm

Its all about precision and finesse rather than all out speed, so if you're heavy handed with the throttle you'll struggle to complete a stage.

It can be tough negotiating off-camber balance beams and see-saws and so on.

You can also set your car up fairly comprehensively, ride height, spring strength, brake balance and gear ratios can all be adjusted.

If you get a minute, try the demo out and let me know what you think (it includes the full track editor and replay system).

Right, on with Vertigo !

cheers,

Mark

[Aero]

Great, cant wait to see vertigo!

[MikkoK]

Will Vertigo be free?

[Wildebeest]

"Will vertigo be free ?"

Sorry - but no.

I am working on putting vertigo up as the same price as for Detonate and Tricky Tracks i.e. 5 Euros.

Unless it takes me so long to finish, PC's no longer run Windows, in which case it will be free, 'cos I'll be broke :)

Mark

[MikkoK]

"Will vertigo be free ?"

Sorry - but no.

I am working on putting vertigo up as the same price as for Detonate and Tricky Tracks i.e. 5 Euros.

Unless it takes me so long to finish, PC's no longer run Windows, in which case it will be free, 'cos I'll be broke :)

Mark

Okay, but do you have any idea when are you gonna publish the Vertigo so I can begin collecting some money. :)

[Str4fe]

im interested in buying detonate, but im not sure about the paypal thing?
Also, will i just recieve the full game, or some kind of a authentication key..?
if my computer needs to be formated if i get a virus, do i have to buy the game again?

If the game would be on sale in steam, i would have bought it already :3

[UberGimp]

Okay, but do you have any idea when are you gonna publish the Vertigo so I can begin collecting some money. :)

You've got to be kidding.

[MikkoK]

You've got to be kidding.

Nope I'm not kidding.

[UberGimp]

You've got to know in good time when it is released, because you have to save up 5 euros???

[MikkoK]

You've got to know in good time when it is released, because you have to save up 5 euros???

Yeah... Everybody isnt so rich. And I'm only 16 so i dont have even work.

[geel9]

Yeah... Everybody isnt so rich. And I'm only 16 so i dont have even work.

It's like $8 dude...Nobody is that poor if you have a machine that can run this and have internet connection.

[dawesy121]

I have to agree. $8 is usually pocket change for most people

[felcro]

I get $12 every week, And manage to save upto $2 every time the week ends. In four weeks I could have gotten $8 or more if I really cared for something I want to buy. Im getting a summer job just for fun with my other batch mates. :/ 1 more month and McDonalds time! :P

[UberGimp]

Yeah... Everybody isnt so rich. And I'm only 16 so i dont have even work.

Woah... Where do you live?
16 should be more than enough to get a job.

[Wildebeest]

Okay, but do you have any idea when are you gonna publish the Vertigo so I can begin collecting some money.

You're starting to make me feel wealthy !
Vertigo is not going to be out until the summer being realistic, so you should have plenty of chance to save up.

I have tried to make the price for the games fair, I know it doesn't stop people from copying them, I understand that, but I have a family to support as well !
(OK break out the violins).

Vertigo is progressing, I've rewritten some core elements to allow for multiple routes at any given location, so the way the levels were loaded have had to be adjusted.

Save games and replays are also linked to a particular climb so they needed adjusting.

This means that you can have a good climbing site (like a quarry or mountain side) where the model for the game only has to be loaded once, but there can be multiple routes available.

Will try to update the blog later with some more detail on what I'm actually doing.

cheers,

Mark

[killen4money]

No offense Mark but all of this waiting BETTER be worth it....or else....i make a goat eat cookies....CINNAMON COOKIES!!! jk

But I would really appreciate some new updated game-play footage. Thx

[geel9]

No offense Mark but all of this waiting BETTER be worth it....or else....i make a goat eat cookies....CINNAMON COOKIES!!! jk

But I would really appreciate some new updated game-play footage. Thx

How old are you?

[Smada]

I have tried to make the price for the games fair, I know it doesn't stop people from copying them, I understand that, but I have a family to support as well !
(OK break out the violins).



Fair might be the understatement of the year, if someone isn't going to buy it for 5€ he won't buy it for 2 cents.
I can see how teenagers start pirating mainstream titles that cost 60++€ but that's not the point here...

Can you really live from it? I thought you were doing it as a weekend project.
I read the numbers chronic logic published and was pretty amazed by the detailed financial information and i was astonished how much income they had (spread over years and developers, of course made it less impressive but none the less...)

But Chronic Logic for example are pretty "big" and quite well known in some circles, while (I hate to say that) I heard of wildebeestgames here...

Are you actively promoting your games on some indie game sites and I was just sleeping or are you somewhat okay with word of mouth propaganda?

Whatever: I'm really looking forward to Vertigo! Keep it up

[samysam]

I definitely think he should make his website look more "professional".

[geel9]

I agree. Maybe he should hire my friend...

[samysam]

or a professional xD just playin'

[Wildebeest]

Can you really live from it? I thought you were doing it as a weekend project.

I have a dayjob, but to say it's low paid would be the understatement of the year. I'm at a bit of a tipping point where the income from the couple of games i have up on the site is getting close to being able to feed me.
I have to judge when to 'jump' - quitting the day job and devoting all my time to coding.

I definitely think he should make his website look more "professional".

Fair comment, but do I spend time and energy (and possibly money) on making the site look slick or just ensure that people can find what they're looking for ?
There must be a trade off between money spent on a site and the potential for losing orders when people see it and go 'sheesh it looks crap - i'm not giving them any cash'.

I seriously appreciate the feedback though (honestly!)

Mark

[samysam]

Fair comment, but do I spend time and energy (and possibly money) on making the site look slick or just ensure that people can find what they're looking for ?
There must be a trade off between money spent on a site and the potential for losing orders when people see it and go 'sheesh it looks crap - i'm not giving them any cash'.

I seriously appreciate the feedback though (honestly!)

Mark

Yes I understand that but I am sure you could atleast find a nicer looking template online for free. I mean you could be making more money in the long run if the website looked more "trust worthy". But idunno you do whatever and just make us them games :D

[Str4fe]

Now that i have bought detonate (YAY :D)

I would like to know how can i recieve the game again if the game is lost.
Do i have to pay for it again? cuz that would suck ass.
i mean, could i for example email Wildebeest games?

[Take-Out_Ninja]

Lose the game?* What do you mean?

Did you delete it or something?

*You just lost it

[Str4fe]

Lose the game?* What do you mean?

Did you delete it or something?

*You just lost it

By losing it i mean if i accidentally delete, or i have to reinstall windows because of virus, is it possible to redownload somehow.

also, it would be cool if this game had a site to upload own buildings and for others to download.

[geel9]

By losing it i mean if i accidentally delete, or i have to reinstall windows because of virus, is it possible to redownload somehow.

also, it would be cool if this game had a site to upload own buildings and for others to download.

I imagine you got an email with info to download. It should work multiple times.