OE-CAKE! (2D Octave Engine fluids sandbox demo)

[TheSloth]

http://www.octaveengine.com/casual/dltrial.html

Just found a link to this from the Bullet forum. The site is Japanese, but the application is in English. It's a nice fluids sandbox that reminds me somewhat of Falling Sand except with the sort of physics you'd get in kotsoft's stuff.

Unfortunately I can't find any screenshots to link to here, but there's some small movies at this page. Download from the top link, view movies on this one.

http://www.octaveengine.com/casual/trial.html

Oh and despair not, Mac users. There's a mac version too :)

[Gump]

youtube vid here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=-pfv90v7ILw

[danahribo]

Maxes CPU to 100% Instantly and doesn't do anything :mad:

[Farbror Fazer]

Looks awsome! :D

[Wetto]

I'm playing with it now and it freaking rocks!

Also I love the music in the youtube video.

[meow-muffin]

So Cool Looking!!!
I got it for mac. Is it supposed to leave weird trails behind everything?

[thorero]

Most Brilliant fluid sim I've ever used! And danahribo, I don't seem to have any issues with my CPU when playing it.

[Drü-B]

I'm watching the videos on the site.
We don't have alot of the things they do.
Like, the Dragging ability.
How do you put a picture in there, and apply physics to it?

Kotsoft, if you aren't watching this thread, you should. They're simulating incompressable liquids, and it's running quickly too.

[Farbror Fazer]

Kotsoft, if you aren't watching this thread, you should.

It's kinda hard for him to see that without checking in this thread :P

[3 solid]

It's not at the same scale as kotsoft's..

Plus when I try to make it work at that scale it slows down alot, so there's still a problem here..

[Farbror Fazer]

Kotsofts is a whole lot less CPU demanding, which is really good. Although this is so much better looking, if Kot gets something like this for his final product ist going to be SLAUGHTER! (of all the other flud sims :p )

[meow-muffin]

SO FUN!!! I made a squid VS man fight in a arena and a pool with a diving board!

[Drü-B]

xD
I love this thing, been playing for at least an hour now.

So, anyone know about those features we don't get.
The Wii button for example?
How about... The physics, picture-thingies?

[kotsoft]

well, my simulation produces beautiful looking bubbles.

i do actually have a surprise for everyone coming soon though... mysterious eh.

[OkumTheLostNinja]

This is BETTER than the falling sand game.

I love this!

[meow-muffin]

Hey kot do you think you could make your stuff for mac some how? cause I really like OE-CAKE and I know I'd like your sandbox even more when it comes out. :)

[Drü-B]

I still prefer Kot's methods.
This IS alot slower.
I'm sure that Kot's will end up better.
I do like the water physics in this better though.
I can't wait for your "surprise" Kot.
can you tell us how soon that'll be.

( every fluid physics related topic on this forum is ending up on the topic of Kot xD )

[TheSloth]

kotsoft's certainly does seem faster. Oh, I just realised you can actually drag in images from folders on your PC or even your browser to make them appear as whatever material you are selected. There's something perversely awesome about setting it to "mochi" and dragging in photographs of people.

[rebirth12345]

http://www.octaveengine.com/casual/download/OECAKE_for_Win.zip

Direct link

[Drü-B]

Oh, so THAT'S how you put a picture in...Muahaha, this IS fun.

[meow-muffin]

How do you put a picture in?

[Drü-B]

Just drag it from your desktop, or a folder into the OE-CAKE window where you want it to spawn.
It'll spawn as whatever material you have clicked.

[meow-muffin]

What graphics level do you need to be on and what format should the image be?

[TheSloth]

It works with Shader mode, or Blob with Textures. So far I have tried the supplied TIFF files (transparency works) JPG and GIF and all work so far. Obviously no animated gifs.

[meow-muffin]

which number is shader mode?

[Virtue]

Sweeeeeeet..... I've been waiting for something like this!!!
Uh oh... Kot's gonna have to outdo this now!!

E: King of 2nd page! Bow down to me

[Drü-B]

What do you mean "number of shader mode"?

anyway..
Who has any clue what "jet" is... anyone?

[meow-muffin]

If you attach jet to something it speeds up in a random direction.
By number I mean how you go into the graphics tab and it has the numbers 1-7 for different graphic qualities.

[looseskrewz]

I get an error:

"The application has failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix the problem."


What does that mean?

I have a P4 1gig ram, and a good video card nvidia 6600 series.

[TheSloth]

I get an error:

"The application has failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix the problem."


What does that mean?

I have a P4 1gig ram, and a good video card nvidia 6600 series.

Are you using Windows XP SP2 or Vista? Those are required.

[Drü-B]

Well, I have no clue which number it is, but I'm Guessing 7.
My little "quality" box, doesn't have numbers, it uses the actual names..
So..

Can you make inflow produce a different material?
in the "dragon" demo, it's producing fire..

[Whef]

This Game Rocks!

[looseskrewz]

Are you using Windows XP SP2 or Vista? Those are required.

I'm using XP with SP2.


I am about to do an XP update, I just reinstalled XP and didn't want to screw it up with a microsoft update......but...I guess I'll do it anyhow.

[Amynue]

Powder Game has been oficially 0wn3d!

[Drü-B]

I always liked meta-water better anyway..
The fluid ( air ) simulation in powder game... was too unpredictable for my tastes xD

[meow-muffin]

I can't get pictures to load! :mad:
It lags like hell when I go into 5-7 shading modes and when I drop an image in
while in 5-7 the screen just goes white and nothing happens till I turn back to
1-4 modes. Anyone with the mac version plz help! :(

[TheSloth]

I've spent AGES playing with the Mochi substance, it's awesome haha. Would Matthew be opposed to people attaching scenes they've created to this thread?

[Dan]

Oh my god... That is just beautiful... Espiecally on shader... Wow... Kotsoft has some real competition now. xD

[meow-muffin]

Can someone please help me. Is my computer too slow?
STATS:
Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac5,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.16 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache (per processor): 4 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 667 MHz
Boot ROM Version: IM51.0090.B09

[Virtue]

Can someone please help me. Is my computer too slow?
STATS:
Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac5,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.16 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache (per processor): 4 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 667 MHz
Boot ROM Version: IM51.0090.B09
It must be because it's a mac.
My stats:

Pentium 4 ht (1 core)
512 MB memory
7900 GS

and it runs fine.

Oh, and the "natura (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.octaveengine.com%2Fna ture%2Findex.html&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8)l" version looks enticing (click on water surface or something)

[rebirth12345]

Oh my god... That is just beautiful... Espiecally on shader... Wow... Kotsoft has some real competition now. xD
I wouldn't say kotsoft has competition.
Kotsoft is aiming for a ????? game
these people just made a nicer falling sand game.

Graphical wise, i agree.
Gameplaywise, i don't agree.

[Drü-B]

This isn't even really a FSG, because the only interaction they have are collisions, bouyancy, and fire burning fuel.
Amiright?

( heating also )
none of the growing plants, salt water...
It's nice, but there's still room for improvement. ;]

[Virtue]

This isn't even really a FSG, because the only interaction they have are collisions, bouyancy, and fire burning fuel.
Amiright?

( heating also )
none of the growing plants, salt water...
It's nice, but there's still room for improvement. ;]
Cooler condenses steam, I guess...

[Drü-B]

Yeah, the heater and cooler have effects on things, the liquid-y materials melt when they hit a heater.

But, where's the chemistry stuff?

I want to mix windex and clorox in a safe environment damnit!

[meow-muffin]

For some reason the only demo with images that works is the shrik one. Perhapses its just because its small.

[Virtue]

Question... in the videos they seem to be able to change what an image acts like on demand (water, elastic, etc) AND it's affected by the tilt (in that laptop vieo). Is that possible with our version? or...*gasp* IS IT ONLY FOR MAC???

[meow-muffin]

Tried tilting it just to see what would happen. Apparently it does nothing.

[OkumTheLostNinja]

Hao2tilt
Seriously how?

[Virtue]

Well, try this:make an image "inflow", it turns the water into the color the image is!

[meow-muffin]

How do you do that?

[Virtue]

Select "Inflow" before importing an image.
E: King of 3rd page, too!

[Drü-B]

Nicely done.
I'm going to reply as often as I can.
We must learn more about the Tilt feature!

[Virtue]

Agreed. *Rushes to Google Language services*

*takes closer look at link*
Aww, we have the trial version (no wonder)

[Drakkuz]

Hey dudes, anyone found anything interesting you can do.

[Drü-B]

What isn't interesting about this, seriously?

[Drakkuz]

Lol good point, just been using it for a bit and im out of ideas.
:D

[futuramaguy42]

Those are some of the best water effects that work on my computer. :)

[Drü-B]

Alrighty then.
We need to e-mail the OctaveEngine people.
I know ZERO asian languages..
So..
Got any asians in the house?

[Drakkuz]

Lol, runs smooth on mine till i fill it up with water then the fps drops a bit

[OkumTheLostNinja]

Lol good point, just been using it for a bit and im out of ideas.
:D

Make water, then a boat with rigid or fuel , and just mess around.

[Drakkuz]

Why you emailing? And nope no asian here.

[Drü-B]

So that we can hopefully, get the FULL version.
Is there a chat-room we can use somewhere, we all seem to be watching this thread closely, might as well get into a real-time chat.

[Drakkuz]

Ventrillo?
Someone host a serv and post ip?

[geel9]

I have hosted a teamspeak server.

69.210.208.50:1234

[Drü-B]

I know this is awful, I'm on fun-motion.
But I've never used vent OR TS.
I was thinking Text chat too..
My microphone is dead xD

[Drakkuz]

Yeah i ment text chat aswell my mic is also dead.

[geel9]

There is text chat :)

[Drakkuz]

We need sometihng simpler like on a browser page lol.

[Drü-B]

Ok, so... Can someone PM me on how to get into this chat
( which are we using, TS or Vent? )

[Drakkuz]

glee post on here how to join a vent chat. i forgot havent used for so long. U r using vent rite?

[geel9]

TEAMSPEAK.

teamspeak.com

download it. open it.

connection -> quick connect -> fill in the info

Server address = 69.210.208.50:1234

nickname = you decide

other stuff = nothing

[Drakkuz]

oh damn downloading now. tohught u ws on vent

[Drakkuz]

eh server is down?

[Drü-B]

didn't work for me.

[Drakkuz]

I was on it with gleel but the his server just went down.

[Drü-B]

Oh, alrighty.
So, what is mochi?

Muaha, king o' the fourth page.

[Drakkuz]

Its chinese for a material able to withstand alot of use. :D

[Drü-B]

.. XD

Alrighty

[Odellus]

This is amazing.

[Drakkuz]

Yes it truly is almighty.:eek:
EDIT: testing out mochi, it doesnt stick at all to wallls and fire does nothing to it :D
Hehe put evry chemical together and burn it all. Tehn try and catch althe unknown white chemical that coems out.
I shall name it UBERFUEL!

[Drakkuz]

Everyone gone ? :eek: .
NOOO DONT LET ME FALL ASLEEP:mad:

[OkumTheLostNinja]

I'm here. ......

[Drü-B]

what're you talking about with the, mixing everything and burning it?

[Drakkuz]

Where? lol...

[Drakkuz]

Omg ur here.!!! yeh mix all and burn. i cant get the white stuff out of the fire agen its weird

[Drü-B]

Yes it truly is almighty.:eek:
EDIT: testing out mochi, it doesnt stick at all to wallls and fire does nothing to it :D
Hehe put evry chemical together and burn it all. Tehn try and catch althe unknown white chemical that coems out.
I shall name it UBERFUEL!

Up there, ^^

[Drakkuz]

yuppppppppp

I mustnt fall asleep.!!!!!!!!

[Drü-B]

Do you mean, mix everything but, wall/rigids/heater/cooler/inflow/outflow/jet...
Then just set it on fire?

[Drakkuz]

yeh all chemicals.

[Drü-B]

it doesn't look any different, they just...
catch on fire.

[Drakkuz]

just little specks of the white stuff come out tho.
EDIT: weird i only got it once. maybe the sleepyness, the caffeine and small amount of alcohol made me halucinate

[Drakkuz]

ourr watevr

[Drü-B]

always possible xD

[Drakkuz]

dun enytihn kl?

[Drü-B]

Nope.
I'm bored now..
-cry-

[Drakkuz]

me 2 very bord i am
know any otha gd phys games
BRB
i am going i think i mite b b akci m not sure cus i mite fl aslepe

[Whef]

If you're so bored then maybe you shouldn't sit here, looking at this page, refreshing it constantly to see if anyone else has posted.

[Drü-B]

I don't refresh constantly, got a firefox addon that tells me when someone's posted here.
Is that ok with you?

[geel9]

Mind posting the link to that extension?!

Oh, and anyone got some cool scenes?

[Drü-B]

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4667

That's the addon, You have to right-click on the thread, but not from inside it.
You have to click the link TO the thread.
Then you can figure out the rest I'm sure xD

[geel9]

Thanks! Very useful.

100th post in the thread!

I'm making a level :)

[Drü-B]

I was watching the tilt video.
She's on a mac...
There's a button there that isn't there for us.

[geel9]

*gasp* Let's make this a powder game-thing!

You know those machines people always make?

[Drü-B]

exactly what I was thinking xD

[OkumTheLostNinja]

Save & Upload here?

[geel9]

Alrighteh.

http://files.filefront.com/tortureoec/;9946003;/fileinfo.html

[OkumTheLostNinja]

Woah, what was that thing at the bottom that sucked him up?

[geel9]

Well, I don't remember what it's CALLED, but it's the opposite of the water-spout. Out-something. It's FSG's drain for OEC.

[Drü-B]

the black stuff that makes stuff disappear? Outflow

[chao9111]

you guys know you can upload any image, right? like .jpg's n stuff

heres a funny one(i made it :D )

[What?]

This is just like much better version of The Falling Sand Game.

[turunen45]

This is best 2d liquid program that runs fine in my sucky computer! i love this little gadget!

[lukeSCI]

So how do i upload an image into it?

[geel9]

drag it on.

[Drü-B]

If someone can tell me what sort of Desktop Recording program will record OE-CAKE!, I will make a little tutorial video, showing you how to do certain things, like the images and such.

[meow-muffin]

YAY!!! cause I can only load images in the shrik demo. Mabe your tutorial will help.
I was wondering if anyone else was getting this problem where in shaded mode but
not of the highest quality it leaves trails of every previous frame?

[Drü-B]

Are you on a Mac?
Because there's only one shader mode on Windows.

[meow-muffin]

Yes I am. Theres one shaded mode that looks sort of like plain meta and another where water is reflective and everything is beveled. Both work with pictures but only in the shrik demo.

[Drü-B]

Maybe it's just because you're on a mac.
I dunno.
That's odd though.
I figured out why we only have a demo.
OE-Casual engine isn't finished yet, so we won't have that version until it's done.

this is basically a beta, so I'm SURE it'll be fully-mac-compatible by the time it's done.
This is the same engine Tekken 6 ( which i want now ) used to create the uber-realistic water in their game.

[meow-muffin]

Well the vids have it working fine for mac so it seems like it should.

[Drü-B]

I think the have a different version, do you have the SMS and Wii buttons on yours?

[meow-muffin]

No but I think the windows version is configured differently too. please post a screen shot.

[Drü-B]

Here's a screen.

[geel9]

SMS/wii buttons?

[Kain]

I can't get pictures to load! :mad:
It lags like hell when I go into 5-7 shading modes and when I drop an image in
while in 5-7 the screen just goes white and nothing happens till I turn back to
1-4 modes. Anyone with the mac version plz help! :(
I'm running just fine:
Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro3,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 4 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz

EDIT: Also, yay for me. I can use the motion sensor bit :D

[OkumTheLostNinja]

Motion Sensor?

[Drü-B]

I hate macs so much...
They're full of advantages, but they don't seem to be a "gamers" computer.
Then, when a realllly nice physics sandbox comes out, the Macs win..
rawrgh.

[OkumTheLostNinja]

True, Dru-B. True.
That's what sucks.


Most of the time, whenever something good comes out, you either need vista, a mac, an XBOX 360 (Which I have) Or a PS3 (Which I don't have)

[Drü-B]

I'll just have to get someone to let me use their mac, in the family xD
...
No, the many arguements of Vista vs. OSX, will be lost if I do that.
Damn you and your appeal apple.

[ShortStuf7]

Its not enabled through use of a mac guys. It's one of those gyroscopic sensor things, or whatever they're called. Those things in the ps3's sixaxis or, more famously, in the wiimote; they make USB ones for pc, and miniUSB ones for N810s and etc. :rolleyes:

[meow-muffin]

WHAT!!! :confused: The mac version sucks compared to the windows version. Half of the stuff doesn't work and the shaded graphics are glichy.

[Zatochu]

Dear lord... This is the best liquid simulator... ever.
It doesn't even lag. It goes slow(If I put on more detailed graphics), but doesn't lag.

[meow-muffin]

YAY! I got pictures to work! It still lags but if I apple click on the fuzzy half invisible image It brings it in front of the background. :D
How do you make the edges of a picture irregular like in the demos?

[Virtue]

How do you liquefy fuel without burning it???

[meow-muffin]

You can liquify fuel without burning it? :confused:
Yay!!! If you apple click something with a different element selected it turns it into the other element.

[Drü-B]

PC's can't change the element... rawrgh.
I want the full version though, it looks much more promising.

[Christcross9]

wow this is wierd..i was listening to CAKE's album when i saw this......XD

for anyone who doesnt know its: http://www.last.fm/music/Cake/Comfort+Eagle


Ontopic: u know hwat kinda sucks i can't play it.....it runs to slowly D:

[Virtue]

Ah. Fire acts like a liquid, but if you put it out, it is actually liquid fuel. drop a little fire on some water and you'll see.

[Drü-B]

Nooo phone.. Nooo phone.. I just want to be alone today... Nooooo phone...
Sorry, love that song.
Now, is there anyone out there who's created a rube-goldberg-ish contraption..
If you have, LEMME SEE IT LYKE RITE NOWZ

[meow-muffin]

I made a guy who does karate with jets!
DOWNLOAD (http://www.mediafire.com/?b4gwu14gyj3)
Rube I solute you:
DOWNLOAD (http://www.mediafire.com/?gyiendm2b6c)

[Geko]

Too bad it runs like a piece of shit on mine. And I can run crysis on medium with little lag.

:/

[bonehead07]

same for me lags like hell! can run other games like crysis fine :(

[Kolt]

Ugghhh, it's so slow! Wish it was faster though.

[Kain]

WHAT!!! :confused: The mac version sucks compared to the windows version. Half of the stuff doesn't work and the shaded graphics are glichy.

STOP. Your making it seem like the Mac version sucks compared to the Windows version. The truth is that the Mac version is infinitely better. I can cover the entire screen with all the substances and only get minimal lag, and I can use motion sensors. Heh.

Mac OS X 10.5.2 > Vista_sh*tsa

EDIT: By the way meow-muffin, the Shaded graphics work for me. It looks so great! I especially like using Tensile with the shaded graphics!

EDIT2: Here is something I made. Forcing water through elastic is fun :D.
http://www.mediafire.com/?vtmdgemzdq9

[rebirth12345]

Mac OS X 10.5.2 < XP
version.


And please, Motion sensor?
How?

[psygo]

STOP. Your making it seem like the Mac version sucks compared to the Windows version. The truth is that the Mac version is infinitely better. I can cover the entire screen with all the substances and only get minimal lag, and I can use motion sensors. Heh.

Mac OS X 10.5.2 > Vista_sh*tsa

EDIT: By the way meow-muffin, the Shaded graphics work for me. It looks so great! I especially like using Tensile with the shaded graphics!
Well, I actually think Meow is a mac user, and dude, Seriously, he didn't know that it was only his computer that was gay, did he? An dhave you tried on Vista/XP?

[Onforty]

OE-CAKE it sounds like oh cake like in oh do not eat my cake:p
sorry if it was an bad joke

[Kain]

Well, I actually think Meow is a mac user, and dude, Seriously, he didn't know that it was only his computer that was gay, did he? An dhave you tried on Vista/XP?

I know he's a Mac user. I have tried it on XP, Mac OSX runs it better.

[Metal Chao]

Hey guys, does this work on XP?
It looks great, but it gives me an error whenever I try and run it :V

[IDTL]

Hey guys, does this work on XP?
It looks great, but it gives me an error whenever I try and run it :V

I'm running it on XP.

[Metal Chao]

I checked and another guy reported the same error a few pages back.
Unfortunately, there wasn't a solution :/

How annoying.

[Maltor124]

What's the error you're getting? Or is it just not starting?

[meow-muffin]

I know my problem!!! I need leopard then it'll run fine. :p

[Metal Chao]

What's the error you're getting? Or is it just not starting?

"The application has failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix the problem."

[looseskrewz]

"The application has failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix the problem."


I posted the solution a few posts back.....you need to install Microsoft Visual C++...It's free read back a few posts.

Then it will work...I had the exact same problem.

[Maltor124]

I posted the solution a few posts back.....you need to install Microsoft Visual C++...It's free read back a few posts.

Then it will work...I had the exact same problem.

I think you accidentally posted that in the kotsoft's thread, looseskrewz.

[psygo]

I know he's a Mac user. I have tried it on XP, Mac OSX runs it better.

Okay, but still, don't call Vista/XP shit because this game runs slower.

[Drü-B]

We're not goin to have fixes.
It's a super-buggy beta version of a japanese physics sand box.
We can't talk to the developers, and I'm sure none of us have had enough time with it, to know the code by heart.

Congratz macs, you finally have a program that runs faster for you.
Why get into the OS wars, we were only trying to compare some of the features.

If we're only going to argue about how "awful" it is, because like every other program out there, it doesn't work on a couple systems... or argue about OS supremacy, I'll just ask a staff member to lock this thread.

[perox]

Is there a way to limit your FPS in this? My fps is like 700 when I first start the simulation so everything is going far to fast, I need to cap it at 60 I think.

[Drü-B]

I don't think there is...
I ( for whatever reason ) think it's probably capping the simulation speed itself.
I could always be wrong, but remember.
This isn't the fully finished product, only a "beta" of sorts.
If you do find something to cap the FPS, do tell though. ^-^

[Metal Chao]

I posted the solution a few posts back.....you need to install Microsoft Visual C++...It's free read back a few posts.

Then it will work...I had the exact same problem.

It didn't seem to work, I still get the same error ):

[meow-muffin]

Pool fun!!!
DOWNLOAD (http://www.mediafire.com/?11jnnsmayfa)

[Treacle109]

if u wanna slow down the FPS i think theres something called the cheat engine? to slow the FPS of any game down

[meow-muffin]

Or you could just go into advanced settings and change it. LOL :p

[Drü-B]

Us on windows don't have the advanced settings.
Or atleast, i can't find it xD

[meow-muffin]

Oh. That sucks. :(

[Virtue]

There must be a mac emulator out there... >:D
I will find it
*scampers off to Google*

[ShaggE]

It didn't seem to work, I still get the same error ):

Same here. Guess I can't have my OE-CAKE and play it too...

*rimshot*

[bastimaramba]

hmmm in that video you guys gave it had those pigs and other stuff where can we get them?

[Drü-B]

It's been posted, but you need an image of it, then just drag it into the OE-cake window where you want it to appear.
Whatever material you have selected, is what the image will spawn as.

[bob117]

hello everybody!

I dont know if anyone has posted this yet but i found out how to drag in this demo version

All you have to do is hold down the right mouse butten on any material:)

[justinkid15]

That Was So Awesome!

I Played That In The Sony Style Store and Apple Store:)

[sakiskid]

ARGH!!!
My comp is really good, and the thing is so laggy. PLEASE HELP. DESPRATE NEED FOR THIS KIND OF GAME.

[Drü-B]

I doubt your computer is that good.
Plus, simulating fluids to any amount of accuracy is INCREDIBLY processor intensive, you have to simulate every single particle's speed, collisions, bouancy, stickiness, viscousness, etc. etc.

I have a pretty dang good computer ( I could use a better CPU ) but it still starts getting laggy after I've got a couple hundred particles on screen.

But it doesn't lag, it slows down..
There's no like.. cursor lag, or anything, it's just slow.. ( hard to explain ) xD

[meow-muffin]

mine starts lagging once its shaded but out of shaded mode I can make it to about a thousand before it starts slowing down. Even when it lags I have no cursor lag. Its sorta weird.

[Drü-B]

Yeah...
I didn't count the particles...
Is there anyway to get a particle count?
That'd be nice..
But... I see no difference in the shaded mode, perhaps it's a graphics card thing...

Can macs have graphics cards? ( I don't know much about macs.. )

[meow-muffin]

Duh macs do!!! Heres its stats:
Chipset Model: ATY,RadeonX1600
Type: Display
Bus: PCIe
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 128 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)

And this screen display stats:
Display Type: LCD
Resolution: 1680 x 1050
Depth: 32-bit Color
Built-In: Yes
Core Image: Hardware Accelerated
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported

[Drü-B]

wait..
They do?
I thought you could only use their pre-built ones..
Hm.

[meow-muffin]

No that one came with the mac but I think you could change it out. :confused:

[Dan]

I dont think it runs better on macs. I can fill up my entire screen with stuff too and i get minimal lag with xp...

[Metal Chao]

It works on my other computer.
I don't see what the fuss is all about.
It isn't that great.
Powder Game and Burning Sand 2 are better.

[Maltor124]

It works on my other computer.
I don't see what the fuss is all about.
It isn't that great.
Powder Game and Burning Sand 2 are better.

Maybe in an actual gameplay perspective, but on a physics game forum? This is infinitely superior.

[meow-muffin]

Burning Sand game is horrible!!! Its like a freakin glitch fest!
Powder games great but I like this better.

[Drü-B]

Powder game isn't visually impressive at all.
The fluid effects are unpredictable and very hard to accuratley control..
Sorry, I hate powder game xD
Burning Sand 2 is fun, for a while.
But then you realize... Hey, falling sand games are dying, and fast.

[Metal Chao]

falling sand games are dying, and fast.

But THIS is a falling sand game >_>

[Drü-B]

Close, but this is realistic.
Fallingsand game really doesn't have much physics involved, aside from gravity..
SOMETIMES bouyancy, but never anything like, navier-strokes or a real fluid-sim algorithm..
Plus, this is a helluvalot faster, and more fun.

[sakiskid]

I doubt your computer is that good.
Plus, simulating fluids to any amount of accuracy is INCREDIBLY processor intensive, you have to simulate every single particle's speed, collisions, bouancy, stickiness, viscousness, etc. etc.

I have a pretty dang good computer ( I could use a better CPU ) but it still starts getting laggy after I've got a couple hundred particles on screen.

But it doesn't lag, it slows down..
There's no like.. cursor lag, or anything, it's just slow.. ( hard to explain ) xD

Well, it dosnt lag AT ALL when i set it to circle,cross,or dot (the first one) except when I get half way full screen.

Argh this is horrible. When its not set on circle it goes ridicualsly slow, and when i do set it to circle and nothings on the screen, it goes incredibly fast. Help me!

[Rob223]

HOORAY

FOR THE SS FAT GUY!

http://xs126.xs.to/xs126/08140/ssfatguy863.png

(transparent png!)

Try setting him on fire!

[Drü-B]

All I can say, is that we have to wait until the fully finished version is released.

[sakiskid]

Woah. Fastest post ever. Oh well, thanks anyways dude :D at least you helped.

[OkumTheLostNinja]

Can somone upload a transparent pirate ship? :D

[Drü-B]

I have an addon for firefox that tells me when someone posts in this thread, so.
I'm watchin' it fairly closely xD

[sakiskid]

Can somone upload a transparent pirate ship? :D

Lucky, I dont even know how to get an image on there.

[OkumTheLostNinja]

Lucky, I dont even know how to get an image on there.


Drag the Image from "My pictures" into the window.

[sakiskid]

? I dont get it.

So we dont clog up this forum (and take less time) goto www.greengunk.com (http://www.greengunk.com) and use my chatbox (you may have to register)

E: I get what you mean... But... When i drag it on there it has the shape of it, just no graphics, so if i use rigid its just a green block

[Gump]

So. what do you guys do/make in this game anyway ? :P i feel like i've tried everything :P

[robminder]

has anyone figured out an efficient way to make liquid fuel? im getting frustrated putting fire in water then having to douse the fire that lit up the fuel i made.

[rebirth12345]

Needs more fighters :p

[Minotour11]

This made me laugh pretty hard. Ask me if you want it (or any other pictures :D)

[meow-muffin]

You chose the element you want it to be before you load the image.
YAY!!!!!!!!!! I just bought leopard and know it works fine! :D
Edit: And know I'm king of the ninth page. What next? :p

[justinkid15]

When I Run It, It Lags

My Video Card Date Is: 2/21/2006:mad:

[IDTL]

What video card is it though?

[justinkid15]

Visiontek Radeon 9600se

[Hotrocker23]

wat is the element that breaks in a really kwl way?:confused:

[IDTL]

Brittle you mean, it's like Elastic, but breaks.

[sakiskid]

When I Run It, It Lags

My Video Card Date Is: 2/21/2006:mad:


Try to go really fast and change "Blob and texture" to "circles".

[Shook]

Ooh, this is very awesome :3

Also, using a shitty online translator for Japanese (Gewgle), i found out a couple
of possibly useful things...
Firstly, when you have enabled "Pouring", you can use the arrow keys to shift the
origin of the water left and right, and increase/decrease the amount of water coming out (Up and down).
Secondly, you can change different things into each other, from mochi to water for example.
How? Make the desired stuff, select the stuff you want to change it to, hover the
mouse above the stuff you made, and press Enter. Hey presto!

[xen]

This thing has quite a few keyboard shortcuts!

Here's what I've got so far: (some of the symbol keys may be different for you, I'm on a UK keyboard layout)

q = Water
w = Wall
e = Elastic
r = Rigid
t = Tensile
y = Snow
u = Not sure, it unselects the current tool button but doesn't change the tool (might be a bug)
i = Inflow
o = Outflow
p = Powder
a = Same as u
s = Spring
d = Dense
f = Fuel
g = Gas
h = Heater
j = Jet
k = Rice
l = Light
z = Delete
x = Rigid Axis
c = Cooler
v = Viscous
b = Brittle
n = Same as u
m = Mochi
@ = Fire
. = Pouring
, = Drain
; = Gravity
# = Hairline
- = Splash
= = Bubble
Space = Pause
Del = Clear (Crashes if the pour emitter is on and not water)
1 = Points
2 = Crosses
3 = Circles
4 = Blurred Circles
5 = Blob
6 = Blob and Texture
7 = Shader

Now the fun stuff... :D

Shift + any of the above keys makes the pour emitter use that material instead of water (for fire pouring on a UK keyboard layout just hit ` (left of 1)).
/ changes the pour emitter to a 'rain' emitter
[ and ] change gravity strength

Still haven't worked out how they did the dragon's fire breath though...

[Shook]

Niiiiice! Good job xen ^.^

I discovered something weird. As you have to use @ to select fire, it isn't possibly
to make it pour down (I tried). However, while fiddling around, i found this weird
combination that enables/disabled fire pouring.
Hold down Shift, and press "´/`" (To the left of backspace) and "+/?" (To the right of 0)
in a succession. I have NO idea about why it works, but it does. It must be in that
order, or else it won't work... Strange. But nice.

[xen]

Ah, I can do shift @ since it's a UK keyboard layout. Possibly shift + the key two right of L on your layout would work for fire? That's where @ is on mine...

Edit: Actually, what am I talking about? I need shift for @ too... On my layout just hitting ` (left of 1) does fire pouring for me.

[geel9]

I'll try that, Xen.

edit: no, that just makes it really slow.

[justinkid15]

Should I Get A New Video Card ?

[Shook]

Ohai gaise, i made a gif :3

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff197/Shook_12/OE-CAKE.gif

[monkeyboy1245]

Suhweet :D How do you make Gifs anyways?

[Drü-B]

THANK YOU XEN
xD
I'd been using a Chinese Translator... no wonder it didn't make much sense.
I've been wondering how you change the Pour..
Can you use that to change the inflow too?

EDIT- when on pour, it all comes out as a liquid..
I'm talking to you who wanted to create liquid fuel, just make the pouring emitter make fuel, it's a liquid!

also the up and down arrows change the rate of emission for the emittttah.


ANOTHER EDIT

Does anyone have good fire/bubble/splash textures?
The ones that come with it, just aren't doin' it for me xD


ANOOOOTHERRRRR EDDDDIT!

Shift+W doesn't pour wall..
It pours... grey liquid, I dunno..
Maybe that's what melted wall looks like xD

[xen]

Can you use that to change the inflow too?

Not that I've been able to work out so far...

If you start an inflow then use Enter to change the type of material under the cursor it'll do so but will just end up killing the inflow.

The dragon example still bugs me... The emitter doesn't seem to be emitting fire. Yes it burns the man made of fuel but there's no flames, just the red. Also it's paying no attention to the gravity in the scene... Maybe it's some kind of lava particle type we don't have access to in the interface...

[meow-muffin]

How do you cut the edges of an image to import? :confused:

[Crincles]

I don't know if you guys figured this out but, pressing / makes it rain. You can control the material that rains by hitting shift + any material hotkey

[xen]

How do you cut the edges of an image to import? :confused:

Save your image as a png or tiff with the transparency data intact.

[meow-muffin]

And thats done how...? :confused:

[meow-muffin]

I have photoshop I just don't know how. :(

[rebirth12345]

Um..........
Did anyone make any good textures?

[meow-muffin]

Okay heres one:
http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/1480/11192817.JPG
just the creepy monkey. :p

[meow-muffin]

He was already posted. :(
I just need to know how to make a transparency tiff or png. :confused:

[IDTL]

He was already posted. :(
I just need to know how to make a transparency tiff or png. :confused:

DO NOT SKIP ANY OF THESE STEPS.

1. Go into photoshop, highlight all of your image, and I mean all of it.

2. Then, make a new document, and select transparent backround in the options that pop up when you hit new, then don't change anything else, and hit ok.

3. Right click on the eraser tool and select magic eraser.
Then go to the white parts of your document, and click on em, that'll erase them, and give you a transparent backround.

4. Save as a .png. Don't try .tiff or .tif.

[adb]

Whoever asked for the bubble / splash textures, I made my own that are decent. At least, the bubble is. Splash is still a little weird. See attachments. And for best result, run in Shader mode.

I also added a little dude I got from the Open Clipart Library and modified slightly, he makes a great elastic ragdoll.

One of my favorite setups is a V shaped heater with outflow at the neck, it makes a great garbage-disposal system for elastic props :D

[meow-muffin]

http://www.mediafire.com/?9rxm4rtlsdz
:p

[Pret.Sal]

this games amazing. we just need upload capabilities. this blows powder game out of the dust in many aspects

[ShaggE]

I want to kick my PC squah... I say, SQUAH!.... in the crotchular region for giving me an error when I try to run this game...

[ARme]

Those who wondering why OE-cake is slow : it's probably because your screen depth is set to 16 bits !
Octave engine need 32 bits ;)

By the way there is still some laptop incompatibility with this software. In that case OE-cake will simply refuse to start even if you install the MVSC++ 2005 redist.

Hope this help :)

ps : this is my first post :D

[bonehead07]

still the same if i run i with 16 or 32 bit there is no difference... Weird thing is on my old laptop with integrated graphics it runs better but still unplayable...

[DragonRR]

For those of you who can't get this to run, get an application error or side by side configuration problem try this:

(32bit 2005 SP1 Visual C++ redist)

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/info.aspx?na=22&p=1&SrcDisplayLang=en&SrcCategoryId=&SrcFamilyId=&u=%2fdownloads%2fdetails.aspx%3fFamilyID%3d200b2fd 9-ae1a-4a14-984d-389c36f85647%26DisplayLang%3den

If that doesn't work try:

this (32bit older 2005 Visual C++ redist)

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=32bc1bee-a3f9-4c13-9c99-220b62a191ee&DisplayLang=en

And/or this (64bit 2005 Visual C++ redist)

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=90548130-4468-4BBC-9673-D6ACABD5D13B&displaylang=en

If the above doesn't work try getting the latest Visual C++ redists (2008) and installing them.

If none of that works you could try running sfc /scannow from an elevated command prompt.....

Basically I had the error on a system here (it worked fine on other systems) and did all of the above. The first solution seemed to fix it but MIGHT be dependent on the rest!

[looseskrewz]

OK, I had to do it!!

Press elastic, and drag this baby into the frame!

NICE!!

http://jbanse49.home.comcast.net/pic3.png

[danahribo]

still the same if i run i with 16 or 32 bit there is no difference... Weird thing is on my old laptop with integrated graphics it runs better but still unplayable...

Try setting it to Circle mode? Or Circles with blur :P

[Gump]

OK, I had to do it!!

Press elastic, and drag this baby into the frame!

NICE!!

http://jbanse49.home.comcast.net/pic3.png

Dude that is awesome :D

more great pics please ^^ makes the game so much funnier. xD

[meow-muffin]

Heres a movie were I melted a guy :p :
DOWNLOAD (http://www.mediafire.com/?314lxdgtftj)

[Dan]

*Cough* Youtube! */Endcough*

[meow-muffin]

Sounds like a great idea but I don't want to make a youtube account now. :)

[justinkid15]

Does OE-CAKE Run On Windows 2000?

[meow-muffin]

Have you tried it? :confused:

[justinkid15]

I Can't Get It To Work!

[IDTL]

I Can't Get It To Work!

Right-click, compatability tab, then change to run in windows 2000.

[justinkid15]

NOT THAT!

The Graphics Card!

[justinkid15]

I Tried It But It's Still Running Slow!

[rebirth12345]

I love this.
It's really awesome.
BTW, can anyone make it so that we can all burn our avatars?
(mine is awesome)
(and mine is 1/3 of the full picture)

[chao9111]

Omg did anyone else know you can move stuff by right-clicking?

[Virtue]

Omg did anyone else know you can move stuff by right-clicking?Yes.
EDIT: King of 11th page!

[Axonn]

Hey, has this happened to anyone else? It's getting bigger as I type.

[rebirth12345]

Hey, has this happened to anyone else? It's getting bigger as I type.
Um....
What?

Well anyways, what kind of minigame can we make with this game?
^_^

[meow-muffin]

Thats spray... I think. xD