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valpster
03-25-2008, 09:31 PM
Original thread: http://www.fun-motion.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1998

Remainder of that thread is a developing collaboration of ideas on FM.

This thread belongs in another category. From my experience a lot of non-physics game related conversations are held via the Physics Games category.

If you decide to make a contribution to this thread, please do so in a constructive and valueable way in respect to the subject.

I ask the moderators if they are willing to give this thread 7 days to develop before moving it to a more suitable category.

E: topic of this thread: "All of the people who want to enjoy this forum and have a shred of maturity wouldn't flame, spam, argue, or be total "dicks"." - Ryu Hinote

Ryu Hinote
03-25-2008, 11:08 PM
I stick with my ideas that I posted in the other sextillion threads that want Fun-Motion to be better:
Fun-motion is perfect; It does what it was meant to do and has no flaws in structure or design.
Members are the true problem. All of the people who want to enjoy this forum and have a shred of maturity wouldn't flame, spam, argue, or be total "dicks". It's people with the mind of a 3 year-old who start saying "LOLOL U sux n00b, u forgoted ur link and pics, Edit: Teh gaem sux, y uld u poast it hear?"

rebirth12345
03-25-2008, 11:23 PM
I stick with my ideas that I posted in the other sextillion threads that want Fun-Motion to be better:
Fun-motion is perfect; It does what it was meant to do and has no flaws in structure or design.
Members are the true problem. All of the people who want to enjoy this forum and have a shred of maturity wouldn't flame, spam, argue, or be total "dicks". It's people with the mind of a 3 year-old who start saying "LOLOL U sux n00b, u forgoted ur link and pics, Edit: Teh gaem sux, y uld u poast it hear?"
What he said

valpster
03-26-2008, 11:08 AM
What he said

Read the original thread.

It's indeed about the people, BFA!!!!

baab32
03-28-2008, 02:30 AM
and im a victim,i started a thread on ragdolls and got flamed like napalm on a vietcong just because of a stupid grammar thingy.why the fuck would grammar be so important,its not a best talker forum its about physics.who cares if i talk like shit man it wont change anything about physics as i know!i just wanted to start my first thread after passing at least 1 year cheking threads and testing games on this forum and thats how i got accepted.....flamed,banned for a month and talkshitted....anyway that may be off topic but i wanted to talk someplace safe because i bet im gonna get banned again if i talk some place else.

baab32
03-28-2008, 02:33 AM
and as another victim,shellyerest was banned because of alot of repost or *stupid threads* as they say but maybe he was just a little kid trying to do his part in this comunity and he got insulted like hell man and its true what i said on my thread.everybody flames new members but seniors who writes stupid things never get the same treatment

Sokuto
03-28-2008, 02:57 AM
I personally don't care about capitalization or stuff like that. But at least spell correctly and use punctuation. Pret.sal doesn't capitalize but he at least spells his words right and tells us when a sentence ends.

EDIT:
and as another victim,shellyerest was banned because of alot of repost or *stupid threads* as they say. but he was just a little kid trying to do his part in this comunity and he got insulted like hell man. and its true what i said on my thread.

See. That is what I don't like. One huge run on sentence. Just put a period after every thought. I bolded and underlined where periods should go. It's really not that hard. This isn't AIM, try and use punctuation.

EDIT2: 600th post. Yeah.

Jachel
03-28-2008, 04:00 AM
and im a victim,i started a thread on ragdolls and got flamed like napalm on a vietcong just because of a stupid grammar thingy.why the fuck would grammar be so important,its not a best talker forum its about physics.who cares if i talk like shit man it wont change anything about physics as i know!i just wanted to start my first thread after passing at least 1 year cheking threads and testing games on this forum and thats how i got accepted.....flamed,banned for a month and talkshitted....anyway that may be off topic but i wanted to talk someplace safe because i bet im gonna get banned again if i talk some place else.

Grammar is important because it means we can clearly read and see what you're talking about. I can't understand half the shit a person who types in numbers says, so I ask them to stop it. Plus, it makes you look immature.


and as another victim,shellyerest was banned because of alot of repost or *stupid threads* as they say but maybe he was just a little kid trying to do his part in this comunity and he got insulted like hell man and its true what i said on my thread.everybody flames new members but seniors who writes stupid things never get the same treatment

While I can't talk for whoever banned him, Shelly got what was coming to him, his thread titles had nothing to do with the game he was talking about, most of the games he posted were already reposted, and he was a smiley spammer (though thats a personal problem)

YOU got banned because YOU insulted Mathew for being "English" and calling him a stupid man for making up the golden rule. You also said "fuck this forum" called grammar stupid (though if you tried to write a resume with you're grammar you'd just get shot out.) and quite frankly, I think your a douche bag.



Anyways, the problem may not be that the forum has bad apples (it does have those sour people, though) its that we gang up too much on the first posters and such. Hell, I got pissed off at Shelly because his first 9 posts were nothing but reposts of games. Besides that, we need to make sure that people USE the search button, also, a grammar test wouldn't hurt.

valpster
03-28-2008, 11:00 AM
Grammar is important because it means we can clearly read and see what you're talking... and some...

I rather see someone use smilies, topics with a lil personal touch, etc... Than all the BS and text many of you spam around (complaining about spam). Stop bitching... stop flaming, ie. if nobody would have flamed Shelley in the 1st time, the thread probably wudn't have gone bad.


NOW GROW UP!!!! ALL OF US!

PS > FUCK GRAMMAR AND SPELLING >>> a lil' reminder, English is not the 1st language for many people... Why care if some threads are not perfect grammar, FM isn't rocket science you know... It's about content people!, and honestly... Most of u who are complaining have their own record of non guidelined thread starting or response to threads.... Stop being so damn arrogant and demanding on people just because it allows u to keep the focus away from ur own shitty behaviour (on FM and whereever U arez)...

My 2 cents.. go flame..


ps2. punctuation is something anybody should be capable of.. no matter where ur from. read your own text before posting, make it so that not only you, but others understand it aswell. Look at it as if through the reader's eyes.

ps3. I finally got one this morning :) It's so heavy and sexy. fap - out -

baab32
03-28-2008, 02:21 PM
and I didnt insult mathew directly i insulted all the morons who kept pissing me off because of a stupid grammar problem and they talked about mathew and i said he stupid to create a golden rule that dosent help the forum.because of that golden rule we see more flaming,new member bitching than physics threads.and you think im a douche bag? but i think your just another moron that follows the strongest,that means the other morons who keeps flaming,bitching and thinking they are kings here so go do like an hermafrodite and fuck yourself dumbass.AND il probly get kicked after that thread but hey,who cares its just gona be like that.that forum isnt so fun to be in.i post comments,i get bitched for some *dont post comments in old threads shit*....and HOW THE FUCK would i be able to tell if the thread i want to comment isnt old enought? forum veterans are morons and that all i got to say they are the one who should get banned for pissing off everybody and making this forum as they are kings. and for the mathew thing,i respect mathew but hate the golden rule.a forum is suposed to be here to help people ex: if someone asks for a game people CONTRIBUTE to help him and help find this game for him if they want not just tell him to fuck off and stop requesting.and valpster your right.english is not my first language im from quebec so i talk french and i talk perfectly english too but my writing sucks.

anyway im finished here its just gonna end up like my other thread probably and i dont wanna fuck valpster's thread with conflicts!

ShaggE
03-28-2008, 02:32 PM
.i post comments,i get bitched for some *dont post comments in old threads shit*....and HOW THE FUCK would i be able to tell if the thread i want to comment isnt old enought?

Look at the dates above the posts. A general rule of thumb to go by is, if it's not on the first page anymore, only bump it for news/updates.

Shook
03-28-2008, 02:44 PM
forum veterans are morons and that all i got to say they are the one who should get banned for pissing off everybody and making this forum as they are kings.
Dude, i'm a forum veteran (Not in F-M, but other places), and do you see me blasting
around with a flamethrower? :/
I respect your opinions and all that, but keep your prejudices at a minimum, please.
I'm sure that there are forum veterans here who aren't interested in spontaneous combustion.

But i agree with what Ryu Hinote said. People really need to lower their torches
a bit, and do contributive posts instead of going "WAI R U OFFTOPIC?" as the sole
content of their post. It just doesn't help anything.

rebirth12345
03-28-2008, 03:08 PM
I'm a Forum Vetran in other places too!
Do I flame people like Grif/Thor on DRLFF??
NO!

Baab32 should be punished for accusing Forum Vets of flaming and all that stuff that is nonexistant within my very 2 eyes!!!

EDIT: I was a new member in Feb, 2008, But I never got flamed by the forum vets.

alexpkeaton529
03-28-2008, 03:10 PM
I think that there are a couple members here who have superiority complexes, almost like they have a vast knowledge of games because they have been here longer. I have been coming to this forum for more than a year, I just chose not to join. I have played just about every fun game on here.

Yesterday I finally decided to join and post a thread about a game I found. I did a search for the game before I even registered and found no threads for it so I took a chance. The first reply to my thread, which occured approximately one minute after making the thread was a guy telling me it was a repost and I should do a search next time.

I did do a search, no results came up. People were saying it was a repost before they even looked at the game. My thread was since cleaned up which I find funny but oh well.

This really turned me away from this forum and after this post I dont foresee myself making any other contributions to it. I have been a member of multiple other forums for years and have seen many members grow into a family almost but after my experience here this is not a family I would want to be a part of.

My only advice is to actually look at a game and play it before you respond to a thread, unless you are certain it is a repost try it out, and if it turns out to be a repost, provide a link to the thread so the original poster can see it.

Gump
03-28-2008, 03:44 PM
I think that there are a couple members here who have superiority complexes, almost like they have a vast knowledge of games because they have been here longer. I have been coming to this forum for more than a year, I just chose not to join. I have played just about every fun game on here.

Yesterday I finally decided to join and post a thread about a game I found. I did a search for the game before I even registered and found no threads for it so I took a chance. The first reply to my thread, which occured approximately one minute after making the thread was a guy telling me it was a repost and I should do a search next time.

I did do a search, no results came up. People were saying it was a repost before they even looked at the game. My thread was since cleaned up which I find funny but oh well.

This really turned me away from this forum and after this post I dont foresee myself making any other contributions to it. I have been a member of multiple other forums for years and have seen many members grow into a family almost but after my experience here this is not a family I would want to be a part of.

My only advice is to actually look at a game and play it before you respond to a thread, unless you are certain it is a repost try it out, and if it turns out to be a repost, provide a link to the thread so the original poster can see it.

Can i just say "Great post" ??

I have almost the same oppinion to this. I think this place is a great source to physicsgames and such. but i do not think its funny/entertaining to write and enjoy myself here.

Also. i can see why baab32 thinks the seniors are being in charge and such.
But i kinda think that's okay. afterall they do have more experience here. (and possibly in fora in general)

I just think a few people have become real pyromaniacs. Im not pissed of. just annoyed. :/

Hope this was understandable :rolleyes: :p

ShaggE
03-28-2008, 04:30 PM
I agree with Al. Yeah, I've fired a few incendiary rounds myself, and sometimes unjustifiably. I think it's because I *have* been to so many fora, playing the role of the nonconfrontational guy, that I find myself blowing up more often here. It's an ego thing, and I try to work on it.

Jachel
03-28-2008, 06:18 PM
and I didnt insult mathew directly i insulted all the morons who kept pissing me off because of a stupid grammar problem and they talked about mathew and i said he stupid to create a golden rule that dosent help the forum.because of that golden rule we see more flaming,new member bitching than physics threads.and you think im a douche bag? but i think your just another moron that follows the strongest,that means the other morons who keeps flaming,bitching and thinking they are kings here so go do like an hermafrodite and fuck yourself dumbass.AND il probly get kicked after that thread but hey,who cares its just gona be like that.that forum isnt so fun to be in.i post comments,i get bitched for some *dont post comments in old threads shit*....and HOW THE FUCK would i be able to tell if the thread i want to comment isnt old enought? forum veterans are morons and that all i got to say they are the one who should get banned for pissing off everybody and making this forum as they are kings. and for the mathew thing,i respect mathew but hate the golden rule.a forum is suposed to be here to help people ex: if someone asks for a game people CONTRIBUTE to help him and help find this game for him if they want not just tell him to fuck off and stop requesting.and valpster your right.english is not my first language im from quebec so i talk french and i talk perfectly english too but my writing sucks.

anyway im finished here its just gonna end up like my other thread probably and i dont wanna fuck valpster's thread with conflicts!

You INSULTED MATHEW DIRECTLY, YOU CALLED HIM AN IDIOT FOR MAKING THE GOLDEN RULE. I don't care if you "respect him" that all went down the toilet when you called him an idiot.

Now, the French part is no problem, I wouldn't mind it if you said that when you first came here, but you would never understand grammar (not spelling) and grammar is in just about every language ever. I could see the spelling enough wrong and such, but you SHOULD CAPITALIZE PLACES SUCH AS QUEBEC AND ENGLISH.

PS > FUCK GRAMMAR AND SPELLING >>> a lil' reminder, English is not the 1st language for many people... Why care if some threads are not perfect grammar, FM isn't rocket science you know... It's about content people!, and honestly... Most of u who are complaining have their own record of non guidelined thread starting or response to threads.... Stop being so damn arrogant and demanding on people just because it allows u to keep the focus away from ur own shitty behaviour (on FM and whereever U arez).

I can see spelling, seeing as it is not the first language for many people, and perfect grammar is something even I don't do, but at least put a god damn punctuation mark after your sentences and an apostrophe after you're contraction (I'm looking at you, Baab).


The biggest problems are A) the flamers and B) the people who get flamed. I'll give me post about a game I posted

http://www.fun-motion.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1768&highlight=Hidden

Turns out it was a repost, but can you blame me? The thread had NOTHING to do with that game and he was a crappy poster.

The bottom line for the flamers should be to not go off on a spree when there is a repost and check to see if the thread that was posted before

Has the games name in it
Was able to understand if said thread was about the game
If the past thread turned into a flame war



People who get flamed need to do the same thing, though they aren't nearly as in fault as the elites, seeing as the elites jump on the new posters like a god damn shark on a seal.


My 5 cents, now quit bitching about it, quit calling names (unless its well deserved) and just quit being assholes.

Muntu
03-28-2008, 06:30 PM
I can see spelling, seeing as it is not the first language for many people, and perfect grammar is something even I don't do, but at least put a god damn punctuation mark after your sentences and an apostrophe after you're contraction (I'm looking at you, Baab).


Agreed. Perfect grammar isn't a "must". It's just more enjoyable to read a text with proper grammar, words etc.
I believe I have a lot of grammar mistakes in my posts, since English isn't my primary language, and I WANT people to point out my mistakes so I can learn to avoid them in advance.

Jachel
03-28-2008, 06:36 PM
Agreed. Perfect grammar isn't a "must". It's just more enjoyable to read a text with proper grammar, words etc.
I believe I have a lot of grammar mistakes in my posts, since English isn't my primary language, and I WANT people to point out my mistakes so I can learn to avoid them in advance.



THIS IS THE KIND OF PERSON I AM TALKING ABOUT.

His first language isn't English, yet his posts are easy to read and I can graze through it without having to focus on it to understand what he is saying. Besides that, theres nothing else for me to add.

Gump
03-28-2008, 06:56 PM
My 5 cents, now quit bitching about it, quit calling names (unless its well deserved) and just quit being assholes.

I don't know what this is called in english.
But in danish it is called, to be dobbeltmoralsk.

lol :D

Maltor124
03-28-2008, 07:09 PM
As others have said, people just need to be less up tight. Half of the threads I have to lock are done so because users trying to PREVENT a bad thread from sprouting up, and henceforth get into arguments about the "badness" of a thread, making it bad. The single greatest thing people could do for Fun-Motion is exhibit a little more apathy, in my opinion.

APATHY IS NOT DEATH. (So just report. ^_^ )

Odellus
03-28-2008, 07:21 PM
hermafrodite

What is that?

[/snip]

You're using "you're" and "your" wrong. Just so you know, "you're" is a contraction for "you are", so saying "you're grammar sucks" is incorrect.

Maltor124
03-28-2008, 07:24 PM
What is that?

Any organism capable of reproducing sexually by itself.

Jachel
03-28-2008, 07:43 PM
You're using "you're" and "your" wrong. Just so you know, "you're" is a contraction for "you are", so saying "you're grammar sucks" is incorrect.

Sorry about that, but I've been with an English teacher who barley grazed us on contractions and the your, you're, but you see what I'm talking about? My grammar isn't perfect, but I still use it and its easier to understand.

Any organism capable of reproducing sexually by itself.

It's also spelled Hermaphrodite.

baab32
03-28-2008, 07:49 PM
im sory if i offended people,by forum veterans i ment veterans from f-m and not all i just generalized it im sorry but people who must be aimed by this insult should recongnise (dunno how to write it) themselfes!

valpster
03-28-2008, 09:46 PM
I'm glad many of you have spoken out, whatever opinion you have. Infact, the majority of the posts in this thread are very much in tune with the desired format.

It's about respect people. Being anonymouse is a luxury of our time, it provides us safe ground where we express ourselfs.

Why would anyone who respects their own personality want to show off like a real pussy...

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Dear diyaria,

I'm so glad I'm home.

School wasn't that bad today, though it sucked I had detention because I was late. Some guys from school threw me on the ground at the busstop. They dragged me through some poo.. so I had to go back to get other clothes. I still smelled poo after I changed and found the cause in my hair, neck and behind my ears. I quickly wiped the most of it and sprayed some of my dad's deodorant. I tried to explain to my teacher.. useless effort from the start.. ever since my dad yelled at her, something bout her vagina being a powdergame... I hate it when he's sober...
Well, im gonna check FM, maybe there's something that'll raise my spirits, I might just go blow of some steam on the forums.

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