i may be making a physics game!

[CHEDDAR]

sup people. I might make a new game, isnt that epic! Heres my idea, tell me what you think. A game allot like ragdoll masters but only you like can get wepons and drive vehicles i want to call it "lead". But i will need a good game maker for that type of game first so any ideas?

[Juggz]

Game Maker 7 - I use this myself and love it.
C++ - Also great

[CHEDDAR]

well i tryed game maker but is it fit for a game allot like ragdoll masters? also i need a little help on using it

[Juggz]

Oh yeah GM is perfect, Look up GMphysics.
That has ragdolls and vehicles and such. Even water physics.

[Relys]

hye guz Im gonna make a game so what sud i do?!

[Amynue]

Does your game will have stickmans with hats?

[Juggz]

I both rofl and lol at your childish statements towards the youngest member of the forum

[Sporbie]

sup people. I might make a new game, isnt that epic! Heres my idea, tell me what you think. A game allot like ragdoll masters but only you like can get wepons and drive vehicles i want to call it "lead". But i will need a good game maker for that type of game first so any ideas?

Do you have ANY programing experience? No? You can't just learn to make a decent game in a few days, it takes at least a year of learning and training...

[Relys]

Not to mention the fact that this should be in the Developers Section (http://fun-motion.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6)

[AquaGeneral]

You would have to have experience in the game developing business before deciding to make a physics game. You need to find out things like what is possible, what is fun, what will make a player play the game over, etc, etc.

As a starting point GM is the best choice.

[Nintendo-Guy]

I love games like N game and stuff. Platform ragdoll game, simple games.

[edthefirst]

I love games like N game and stuff. Platform ragdoll game, simple games.

N was made in flash, so that is also another possibility, of course Flash itself costs 400 dollars.

[Nintendo-Guy]

N was made in flash, so that is also another possibility, of course Flash itself costs 400 dollars.

Thats alot of cash. Not worth for just doing a game.

[Farbror Fazer]

Am I a mean person if I say that this thread is totally unneccesary and I don't think you'll ever make a good physics game? Or anything whit physics at all?

[Cries]

Yeah, great idea! Will you implement Euphoria/Molecular matter/PhysX?
Are you going to take advantage of the Direct X 10 system?

[Stigern]

/Sarcasm

I want to make a game. I only know some .BAT programming!
Want to make something like Flatout 2 only better!

Someone got a "make a better game than flatout2" game maker?

[3 solid]

Alright guys I think you've made fun of him enough.

..

First of all- Have you made a game before? Have you made a program before? If not, don't start with physics. If yes, what kind? A simple game or a complicated game (Complicated doesn't mean fun, but simple games are normally much easier to make).

Start with something simple, like a... overhead shooter using game maker or something.


Also, improve on grammar and spelling. I'm a nazi when it comes to that.

[muffinmonkey]

eeee
I hate to piss on your housefire but:

you cannot just decide to make a game with no experience
you have no way of making one
I'm not quite sure how you can put vehicles in a ragdoll game

[Loplop]

Lol whos the youngest member of the forum?

[spacemarine9]

dunno :O
but anyway, back on topic:
so is this game freeware or payware? Or in otherwords:
free or fee?
free or no free
fee or no fee?
oh and, i have an idea for a physics game, that I will make as soon as i know how do do flash!"the glasses of masses destruction"
:D

[Muntu]

Haha, I love this thread.. "i may be making a physics game!"
You're a bit overconfident I think :D

[Odellus]

Sorry, but this is my opinion. I believe it to be constructive criticism when I say this, but Cheddar... You will most likely crash and burn. Do you have any experience in using any type of game software? You would need at least a year or two's worth of knowledge to make a simple game, with nothing BUT a ragdoll. Yet you say you want vehicles also? How are you going to make the transition from a ragdoll to a physically enabled vehicle? Do you have the answer to any of these problems? Please, just get an education of game making software and then come back to this forum to explain your position upon your knowledge.

[Farbror Fazer]

Srsly, Do you have any ambition in studying Programming etc? If not, give up. Myself, I'll begin to read Computer-programming etc After the spring break.

[Z3R052]

And I thought the useless Cheddar topics have ceased, yet once again I have been provin wrong.

Try seeing if you can find a class at your school that does some C, it will get you started toward a game.

[Tooba Dooba]

:mad: ....Lock Please?

[spacemarine9]

lolwut...
ITS A PERFECTLY VALID THREAD!
i mean, he can post ideas and stuffs here, can't he?
so, let the discussion CONTINUE!
and yeah, i was not joking when i said i might make a physics game!
name:
the glasses of masses destruction
:D

[frodo091]

Does your game will have stickmans with hats?

LOL. That is the most awesome thing in this thread. The most appropriate post, too (As in it applies to the topic.) For anyone that doesn't know, read CHEDDAR's previous posts.

[spacemarine9]

y'know, you could have a ragdoll in a vehicle, with the ragdoll holding onto the wheel spinning around, smashing into things! Or he could drive safe with a seatbelt......
Hehehehehe, a nice idea
nice idea, moving the thread BTW. otherwise it would be lock'd

[Loplop]

Leave the guy alone atleast hes having a go, im not trying and ive posted some pretty dumb things myself but as soon as i post in a thread it doesnt become a "flame loplop" thread so leave him alone.

[Lee Buslett]

I have been brainstorming for eight years on my game

[digitalmanifestation]

Geeeeez, you nasty barstards xD

[AquaGeneral]

The only thing I am not getting is that how can you decide to make a game let alone a physics game without experience in any type of programming or at least something like level creation. If his game did go forward of course I would play it.

[CHEDDAR]

well i intend that the people will were hats also i know i might be inexpirienced but im gonna give it a try. Well were you guys suprised on what an 11 year old can do "movie making wise" well you guys wouldent know what i could do with making games, respect the fact that i am a EXTRREMLY fast learner. so if you guys could give me a couple pointers like...HOW TO GET STARTED, game maker is cunfussing but i will garuntee i will get it soon

[Z3R052]

couple pointers like...HOW TO GET STARTED, game maker is cunfussing but i will garuntee i will get it soon

Try googleing for Game maker tutorials. Ive only messed around with the program for about 5 minutes so I have no good pointers at the moment.

[rocketeer]

Lol whos the youngest member of the forum?

probably me :P anyways, CHEDDAR, I repeat everything said about getting more experience (without all the flaming :)) Also, everyone who's flaming him over his past mistakes stop bitchin about it and bein drama queens plz. (at least, so long as he doesn't make too many mistakes later)

[Odellus]

well i intend that the people will were hats also i know i might be inexpirienced but im gonna give it a try. Well were you guys suprised on what an 11 year old can do "movie making wise" well you guys wouldent know what i could do with making games, respect the fact that i am a EXTRREMLY fast learner. so if you guys could give me a couple pointers like...HOW TO GET STARTED, game maker is cunfussing but i will garuntee i will get it soon

Expect nothing. And please, for the love of the grammar, spelling, and language Gods, take a bit of time to look through your post and fix any grammatic or spelling errors. It bugs the hell out of me that I'm only a year older than you and your giving us such a bad reputation. Just think of what your typing or saying, it would help me not have to strain to read your writing and comprehend the meaning of your statement better.

EX.
"Well, I intend that the people will wear hats. I also know that I may be inexperienced, but I'm going to give it a try. Were you guys surprised on what an eleven year old can do? Movie making wise? Well, you wouldn't know what I could do with making games. Respect the fact that I am very able to learn things quickly. So if you guys could give me a couple pointers, like how to get started, I'd be very grateful. Game maker is very confusing, but I wil guaruntee I will understand it soon."

[kotsoft]

yeah, i started with game maker when i was 12, and by just following all 6 tutorials provided by the site, i became a programming master. :)

anyway, cheddar, if you're using firefox, you might want to consider getting one of those spelling check plug-ins so the grammar nazis don't kill you.

[Odellus]

We have Game Maker 7 on our computers at school. Only Gifted students like me are allowed to use it. We had to make a game in about a month one time, and mine was a racing game, I think. The wheels had suspension and I think I had bouyancy in the water, not sure. It was really fun, and I was the only student to get all five categories with five out of five stars. They were Creativity, Quality, Presentation, Graphics, and I believe Gameplay.

[muffinmonkey]

We have Game Maker 7 on our computers at school. Only Gifted students like me are allowed to use it. We had to make a game in about a month one time, and mine was a racing game, I think. The wheels had suspension and I think I had bouyancy in the water, not sure. It was really fun, and I was the only student to get all five categories with five out of five stars. They were Creativity, Quality, Presentation, Graphics, and I believe Gameplay.

nice to know
but

back on topic is anyone actually going to help Cheddar?

he says he wants to make a game, you flame him
that's not what F-M's about

[Loplop]

Muha im two years older than cheddar!

[muffinmonkey]

Muha im two years older than cheddar!

is that the topic?





no

[spacemarine9]

We have Game Maker 7 on our computers at school.Only Gifted students like me are allowed to use it. We had to make a game in about a month one time, and mine was a racing game, I think. The wheels had suspension and I think I had bouyancy in the water, not sure. It was really fun, and I was the only student to get all five categories with five out of five stars. They were Creativity, Quality, Presentation, Graphics, and I believe Gameplay.

mwa ha ha, im a gifted student ^_^
im doing a electronics class soon, dont think it includes game maker though T_T:(
but, you a gifted student too >_<
ah well, im only 11, so i cant make any games right now >_> <_<
EDIT
w00t! I am now officialy a senior member!
100TH POST!

[TheSloth]

Geeeeez, you nasty barstards xD

Aye they sure are. To those who are harsh to him, don't say I didn't warn you if in 5-6 years time you hear of a cheese-obsessed high school student slaughtering his classmates.

I was a gifted student too. All we got was a pat on the back. You're lucky, Odellus. My school just poured resources into the kids that liked to set other peoples hair on fire.

[C22H28N2O]

Hi, I'm about 100 years older than cheddar.

How many of you guys care?

[Farbror Fazer]

I don't give a crap... ;)

Srsly Cheddar. Your 11, and apparently doesn't no shit about programming. This game will NOT happend, at least not under your making. And back when you posted the illeagal threads (at the time when the "hate cheddar cult" evolved) it took a while for you to understand to just quit it making new threads, and thats pretty simple, so I can't say your a very fast learner at all...

[spacemarine9]

OK, Cheddar probably ISN't the youngest
1. im 11
2. My brother, who goees b the name of okami here, is 7 >_<

[Jokker]

Everyone flaming Cheddar, posting about ages, and doing completely off-topic stuff, ...shut the hell up. He says he wants to learn to program to make a physics game. You don't think he can do it, and you post so. Fine, but contribute to the damned topic. Flaming Cheddar for making a bad thread when this one is perfectly fine just makes you look like an ass.

Cheddar hasn't spammed since all that happened a while back, yet you keep provoking him, flaming, just itching to make him leave. You. Are. Pathetic.



Now that that's over with, I suggest you try looking at C, or maybe Blitz.

http://cprogramming.com
http://blitzbasic.com

[C22H28N2O]

OK, Cheddar probably ISN't the youngest
1. im 11
2. My brother, who goees b the name of okami here, is 7 >_<

Does it look like that anyone cares?

To stay on-topic:

I recommend you to use Python, just to learn the basics in "thinking code".
http://www.python.org/
http://www.awaretek.com/tutorials.html

[muffinmonkey]

Srsly Cheddar. Your 11, and apparently doesn't no shit about programming. This game will NOT happend, at least not under your making. And back when you posted the illeagal threads (at the time when the "hate cheddar cult" evolved) it took a while for you to understand to just quit it making new threads, and thats pretty simple, so I can't say your a very fast learner at all...
You ever heard of grammar? Or spelling? Or being in any way nice?
I think Cheddar is a much better member than you

Everyone flaming Cheddar, posting about ages, and doing completely off-topic stuff, ...shut the hell up. He says he wants to learn to program to make a physics game. You don't think he can do it, and you post so. Fine, but contribute to the damned topic. Flaming Cheddar for making a bad thread when this one is perfectly fine just makes you look like an ass.

Cheddar hasn't spammed since all that happened a while back, yet you keep provoking him, flaming, just itching to make him leave. You. Are. Pathetic.

yes, listen to the smart Jokker

Does it look like that anyone cares?

unfortunately, it seems like everyone does care about age.

[AquaGeneral]

/\ Yay /\ That sums up most of what I was going to say.

The age thing is really important. Think of the quality of a post from a 5 year old to a 30 year old.

If you want to make a game you need to understand exactly how a game works and create a good game concept. If you get someone else to do all of the game you cannot really call it your's.

Plus try not to base a game from another game, re-think all your ideas and make it more interesting and add a lot more to it.

A good way to start learning about programming and other game related business try to look for a forum with game developers chatting. You can probably learn a lot from just listening to what a game developer has to say.

[C22H28N2O]

You ever heard of grammar? Or spelling?

Maybe that's because english isn't his main language?
Everyone can't be good at english you know. ;)

Anyway, I shouldn't be writing in this thread from now on. It's kinda off-topic and stuff...

[Monky]

I've been programming physics games since i was 15 :P
But i do agree with the others cheddar, your kinda jumping into the deep end with physics. Learn the basic logic involved with programming before you try go any further.

[spacemarine9]

welcome to the forum monky!
YAY, my first welcome ^_^

[muffinmonkey]

I see a lock coming on

ON TOPIC PLEASE

[Loplop]

I was taking the piss off of your comment towards me because tht was off topic imo now lets just not start a flame war ffs...

[Cyranix]

I'm going to make this perfectly clear.

Under no circumstances will anyone be allowed to harass a user because of who they intrinsically are.

In rhetoric, attacking someone's character rather than their argument is a ruse known as the ad hominem fallacy; in real life, that attitude -- which judges a person on characteristics they cannot change and disregards actualities in favor of assumptions -- is one that leads to various forms of discrimination such as racism and sexism.

Cheddar is a contributing member of this forum, and as such he deserves the same respect as any other user. If you assume that "all Cheddar posts are bad posts", you are not giving him a fair shake at all. Anyone who has a rough start but later improves is no less of a user; if the spammer who sends this forum WoW power-leveling messages decided to stop today and join in the discussion, he would be equally welcome and enjoy the same privileges and responsibilities as anyone else.

Those who filled this thread with vitriol and mean-spirited remarks should be ashamed of themselves. Fun-Motion is a better community than all that. Further displays of intolerance will be dealt with swiftly and sternly.

====================

Cheddar, for you I have two suggestions:

1) Only post in the Feedback Request section when you have (a piece of) a game. Until then, use one of the older "I have questions about game creation software / programming" threads. Note: a little pen-and-paper practice can be a great help, long before you get to programming, in game design.

2) Learn proper English and use it. Use spell-check on your posts, too. I can and will defend you against people who assume that your posts are bad de facto, but I cannot and will not defend legitimate criticisms of your spelling and grammar. If you're ready to play with the big kids, you gotta show it.

[CX1329]

You never fail to amaze me, my fellow mod. :p That's some top-class stuff right there, very well said.

[Loplop]

Big hand for cyranix the first person to have decent feedback/help for chaeddar without flaming him!

[digitalmanifestation]

I was going to post some info for him but i was busy at the time of my last post on this thread. But i will take the time out to write some stuff now since you are all meanies and have set this poor fella on fire with your flamage.

Aside from the "hominem fallacy" comments, a lot of what people is saying is true, it's very hard to get into game making. This doesn't mean you should give up however, it just means be aware it's hard and not to give up.

This said i was quite like you in some ways 10 years ago. I would play a game and be like i wish this game had this feature or that feature or did something a bit different. I didn't know anything about games production but it doesn't matter how much you know, you just have to have a dream about making games and work towards that dream in the knowledge it isn't an easy task.

I would suggest getting Blitz3D, i bang on about it a lot on here but it is a perfect introductory language. It's not too complex and not to simple either and is a good way to get into programming. That is of course if you want to even learn programming.

If you don't want to learn to code you can always get into game making by either doing 2D stuff (concept art, reference picture artist, texture artist) or 3D stuff (Modeling, level creation, animation).

It's also helpful to read anything about game making, start learning the jargon people use when talking about game creation. There is some cool lectures on Google video + the net in general that you can check out also.

One cool thing however is you have an advantage over other people here in the fact that you are young (Masters of KungFu start young xD ). You may be 11 but if you start researching all this information now, you will have like +6 years knowledge at age 22 than i had. I learned all i know in about 6 years so you will have double the knowledge + experience. With this i'm sure you could create better games than a lot of peeps on here. It's funny that a lot of people flaming you don't know much about games making themselves let alone how to code or do any of the simpler tasks :P

If you decide to get blitz3D or similar i would be willing to answer any questions you have, just PM me on here and we can take it from there. Besides there is examples for each command in blitz and there is absolutely tons of source code available on blitz3D forums (TONS!) I could hook you up with a template application that you can use to start learning blitz.

Hope this information helps to set you on the correct path.

Peace out,
Lee

[Jokker]

Just as a side note, Blitz3D is indeed a very good introductory language. Apart from Blitz, Pascal is a good starting point, but Blitz will also help introduce you to game-making as well.

I fully agree with starting with it, but I suggest starting out small with 2D games. It will help that you don't have to worry about the Z axis and such. Also, I suggest starting to think procedurally. Meaning don't think as this code as you read it:

for i:=1 to n do
begin
readln(x);
if x = 5 then writeln("Five");
end;

That's Pascal.

Try to understand how it works. Like, explaining it like this:

Repeat the next series of instructions for n times, with i starting at 1 and going up 1 every turn, up until i is n:

Read x, then check if it's 5 and if it is, write 'Five' on the screen.



Don't try to memorise algorithms. It won't help at all.

[/hints]

[Odellus]

Cryanix and Jokker are probably the only ones in this thread that have actually contributed. The only game experience I have with games is the one modification I made for C&C Renegade that actually worked. I was actually only about nine when I made it, believe it or not, and my server usually drew about ten or eleven people just for the mod, even though it wasn't all that refined. One person, I will never forget, actually came on and told me that I should learn C++, and from then on out, I've always been a technology enthusiast. Doing things here, modding things there. Etcetera, etcetera. But anyway, more to the point, that's just to show that Cheddar may be young, but will be able to well handle himself in the gaming industry when the time is right. Sadly, he has had a rough start, and I believe the members of this forum need to begin treating him with comfort, and encourage him in his endevors into the gaming world. It's dog eat dog out there, and we need to show him the ropes for the time being.

[STEVIE G]

Go with Blitz3d, join the bb.com forums, ask questions and you'll get plenty of help / guidance.

[CHEDDAR]

thanks steivie G

[muffinmonkey]

really.....explain www.teagames.com/ really...I'm the inexperienced one...sure [I just had to correct it, sorry]

what was that meant to prove
if your talking about ragdoll and vehicle combos, well you're planning something different, you're planning, are you not, to have ragdolls driving vehicles while still being ragdolls and controlled directly (in those games, the force still comes from the bike).

edit: WTFSM! That post changed somewhat. For the record, I was sticking up for you, just pointing out what you needed to do, post reported

for the last FRICKING TIME! WHERE DID YOU MORONS START! HUH!! WHERE!!!!!!!! probably where I am today, I'm just a kid with a dream [no idea what that's meant to mean?] and I always wanted to make video games and if it takes me 10 years so be it! Anyone who has the nerve to get in my way do me a favour and GO TO HELL!

[digitalmanifestation]

Cryanix and Jokker are probably the only ones in this thread that have actually contributed.

Thanks a lot, i shan't bother in the future to help...

[CHEDDAR]

what was that meant to prove
if your talking about ragdoll and vehicle combos, well you're planning something different, you're planning, are you not, to have ragdolls driving vehicles while still being ragdolls and controlled directly (in those games, the force still comes from the bike). im not sure how..or if its possible if not then i'll come up with something but anyways my idea was that it would be a ragdoll action vehicle game. but wanted some parts of the game to be hand to hand ragdoll fighting

[CX1329]

Cheddar, your post was deleted due to its offensive nature. You can't flame on here. The next violation of the flaming rule will result in a booking.

Why don't you try explaining your position to everyone in a more polite way? It would be a great opportunity to show your maturity and prove everyone who speaks lowly of you wrong. :)

[CHEDDAR]

Cheddar, your post was deleted due to its offensive nature. You can't flame on here. The next violation of the flaming rule will result in a booking.

Why don't you try explaining your position to everyone in a more polite way? It would be a great opportunity to show your maturity and prove everyone who speaks lowly of you wrong. :)
i understand...im sorry i just needed to tell them, but can i ask you a question? why can people say "fuck you" (as said by amuyne) and there posts dont get deleted?

[muffinmonkey]

I'm not sure how..or if its possible if not then I'll come up with something but anyway my idea was that it would be a ragdoll action vehicle game. But wanted some parts of the game to be hand to hand ragdoll fighting

Seriously, you're just a bit weird aren't you, one minute you're flaming me and the next you're talking constructively

but if you can find a way of doing it...

[CX1329]

i understand...im sorry i just needed to tell them, but can i ask you a question? why can people say "fuck you" (as said by amuyne) and there posts dont get deleted?


Probably because the mods missed his post. You should report any posts that violate the rules.

[CHEDDAR]

Seriously, you're just a bit weird aren't you, one minute you're flaming me and the next you're talking constructively

but if you can find a way of doing it... i wasn't flaning you muffinmonkey! i was saying that to all who was saying im %100 incapible of making a game! i wa not talking to you if your on my side on this!

[muffinmonkey]

I wasn't flaming you muffinmonkey! I was saying that to all who was saying I'm 100% incapable of making a game! I was not talking to you if your on my side on this!

You had me quoted in your post
and you shouldn't be flaming anyone

I'm on the side of anyone who will make me a game to play

[CHEDDAR]

You had me quoted in your post
and you shouldn't be flaming anyone

I'm on the side of anyone who will make me a game to play ok lets get this strait i was quoting you for the first post not the edit i shoulddhave taking that part out no har fellings?

[muffinmonkey]

OK let's get this straight, I was quoting you for the first post not the edit I should have taking that part out, no hard feelings?

I couldn't care less

you're derailing your own thread

[digitalmanifestation]

Grow up noobs...

[CHEDDAR]

Probably because the mods missed his post. You should report any posts that violate the rules.
oh ok thanks

[inuyasha2264]

Hey Cheddar, have you actually done any work on this yet? (Don't take that the wrong way, I'm asking if you've worked on the game.) If you haven't or even if you have, give me a shout on AIM, my screen-name is Inuyasha2263.
I'll see if I can help you out with GM. If you don't want to download AIM go to http://www.Meebo.com, you'll understand when you get there.

[muffinmonkey]

Hey Cheddar, have you actually done any work on this yet? (Don't take that the wrong way, I'm asking if you've worked on the game.) If you haven't or even if you have, give me a shout on AIM, my screen-name is Inuyasha2263.
I'll see if I can help you out with GM. If you don't want to download AIM go to http://www.Meebo.com, you'll understand when you get there.

Meebo is marvellous

sorry that was very offtopic
please shoot me

ON TOPIC