Gish 2 Discussion! [Archive] - Fun-Motion Physics Games Forum

soad667

03-17-2007, 06:45 PM

Well, this thread may live forever... especially when Gish is out :)
I hope it will have a friendly editor and versus (coop too!) mode via internet/lan and not only on the same computer...

Btw, i reinstalled Gish and try to pass some custom levels that i didn't manage to back then... I still can't figure out what to do on the Cube level :o

c--b

03-17-2007, 09:15 PM

I pray that it has a proper co-op mode... Unfortunately "proper" means doing all the levels so that you must actually co-operate to complete them (Many FPSs have co-op, but none actually require you to co-operate... The only truly Co-operative game I can think of is Four Swords adventures), and this means doing two sets of levels, which means lots of extra work :/

I can still hope though can't I?

Relys

03-17-2007, 09:47 PM

Gish is like a legend... I'm so glad to see sequal!

Kurrus

03-17-2007, 10:58 PM

If it has an easy-to-use level editor, I'll buy it. :)

Faikon

03-17-2007, 11:25 PM

I think it's silly to make a thread about a game where all you know is that it will be released at some point. There is nothing to discuss right now...

Z3R052

03-18-2007, 12:03 AM

soad667

03-18-2007, 02:53 AM

Faikon, because we don't know anything about the game except some artwork, doesn't mean we don't have any thoughts around it. That's why the thread started - say what we would like to see in game, see others' ideas etc... To make the waiting painless, especially for the big fans :D

Btw, the only coop game i played that was more than "lets go kill some guys together, but i can kill them alone too", was SplinterCell3's coop mode... Impossible to finish the lvl if one of the team was... well, not cooperative at all ;)
And Gish can be a great coop game with puzzles that need two players - a simple way of doing that at its base is buttons that must be pressed at the same time and no blocks available to put over :D

Dj Demetrius

03-18-2007, 11:33 AM

I liked Gish 1 (i bought full version actually) but this probably will be so awesome i'll fall off my chair.

Zcool31

03-19-2007, 02:19 AM

I think Gish rocks. I passed the original, but it took me close to 100 lives.
Care to guess what my score is?

Sardiini

03-19-2007, 03:44 PM

Gish 1 was too short and the ending sucked, but i hope Gish 2 will be awesome.

soad667

07-26-2007, 06:57 PM

No info about Gish 2 yet, but while waiting... grab something new about the first one. Cryptic Sea has announced that Gish is now available via Steam with all the extra content (user-made levels i guess) released so far...

Ryuraga

07-26-2007, 07:53 PM

i cant wait for gish 2, its gonna be amazing! i also hope that they implement some co-op levels, and please dear god make it longer!

rocketeer

07-27-2007, 09:32 PM

cant wait until "later" :) i think ill put some nostalgia into my head. *goes off to play GISH 1*

soad667

09-04-2007, 08:19 PM

A new blog has been created by Cryptic Sea :D
That is surely the first stop for everyone who's looking for Gish 2 news...
For the time being, there's just some artwork - i hope more news and the game itself will come soon :rolleyes:

-Is there anything missing? Yeah, right, here is the link: http://crypticsea.blogspot.com/ ;)

PhysicsEnabled

09-05-2007, 07:22 PM

The new devs will probably fuck it up. But i hope its good.

Kingston40

09-08-2007, 08:36 AM

Well it's out now! Any need for a new thread?

EDIT: SOrry, it's not out but in development but theres still alot to talk about

soad667

09-08-2007, 10:48 AM

Well it's out now! Any need for a new thread?

EDIT: SOrry, it's not out but in development but theres still alot to talk about

New thread? What's wrong with this one? :p
Gish 2 Discussion! looks like a good place to discuss about Gish 2, released or not :cool:

razer

09-08-2007, 11:40 AM

Look at the fun motion homepage :D

Jokker

09-08-2007, 12:55 PM

Is it just me or is it not all that different. I mean, yeah, some better graphics, but I find the gameplay more important than the graphics...

I'm gonna wait for another few videos before I make an opinion since this video only showed the graphics, and a bit of physics (jumping and sticking and such
, but didn't show rigid body physics)

I also saw two blobs in two points in the video...

soad667

09-08-2007, 05:21 PM

Well the video didn't show much, but it was just some kind of testing as they said. I'm sure (at least i hope so) they have a lot more in their minds or hidden under their sleeves - whatever fits you ;)

soad667

09-29-2007, 12:18 PM

Well, Cryptic Sea's blog has some interesting info for Gish2's development (something... big is happening there :eek:), plus one little thing for everyone who has the first Gish - they're gonna release a level pack called Gish:The Lost Levels to ease the pain 'til Gish2's release ;)

Killa

09-29-2007, 01:38 PM

soad667

09-29-2007, 07:31 PM

what...is happening there?

What is happening? A great game is being developed :eek:
It's just one click away, if you want more info - they didn't make the blog for nothing.
They have many fresh ideas and i hope they'll get them in the final version, when the time comes...

GreyMario

04-24-2008, 07:29 PM

Gish 2... uses a particle system just for the blob of tar now?

*head a splode* </bump>

Odellus

04-24-2008, 07:39 PM

A seven month bump just to say that? You sir, are retarded.

BiT

04-24-2008, 08:17 PM

A seven month bump just to say that? You sir, are retarded.

I don't agree with that.
Because there's anew video posted, for all of us to see.

So we've got new information to discuss...

rocketeer

04-24-2008, 10:02 PM

I don't agree with that.
Because there's anew video posted, for all of us to see.

So we've got new information to discuss...

If that's the case, then he should have posted the video instead of just going "...blob of tar...head asplode..."

Greek

04-25-2008, 01:19 AM

they use whatever covers the design's needs.

soad667

04-25-2008, 12:18 PM

The video is in the main F-M page and someone created another thread for this. I linked to this thread with the advise to merge the two threads, but still with no luck... I guess GreyMario read the other thread and posted here :D
Anyway, life goes on, split or not ;)

soad667

06-30-2008, 01:12 AM

Bump............

Gish2's page (http://www.gish2.com/) has been updated with a teaser of one of the bosses (i guess ;))

Plus, at their blog, they say that they're working on outdoor lightning and day/night cycles. I hope that soon there will be a video or some kind of Q&A about the actual gameplay elements and game's physics system/puzzles...

Maybe Matt can have an interview with them? Since it's been a long time since F-M had an interview of some kind. Just an idea ;)

-Oh, double post... Shame on me, but i didn't even see that last post was mine. Sorry guys :o

IDeA

06-30-2008, 05:41 AM

-Oh, double post... Shame on me, but i didn't even see that last post was mine. Sorry guys :o

Don't worry much, otherwise it wouldn't be a bump (if you wouldn't have posted)

soad667

06-30-2008, 10:56 AM

Don't worry much, otherwise it wouldn't be a bump (if you wouldn't have posted)

Yeah, you're right. Editing posts doesn't bump them, so everything went... as it meant to ;)

Amynue

06-30-2008, 11:15 AM

Interview with Gish 2 developer (http://www.gamesetwatch.com/2008/06/interview_edmund_mcmillen_talk.php), there is few interesting informations about Gish 2.

soad667

06-30-2008, 01:30 PM

Nice interview, i really enjoyed reading it ;)

Virtue

06-30-2008, 03:22 PM

Gish2's page (http://www.gish2.com/) has been updated with a teaser of one of the bosses (i guess ;))Quietus "god of the dead"Whoa. God of the Dead, eh? Of course, a ball of oil isn't exactly alive...

soad667

07-01-2008, 10:04 PM

Teaser trailer (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4ERQG_iEUjQ) :eek:

Actually, there is nothing about gameplay elements, but as Edmund promised, this will shed some light in Gish2's dark story :cool:
God of the Dead becomes even scarier, very Lovecraft-like...

Waiting for more trailers/info... anything. They seem very optimistic about releasing it in 2008, lets hope everything goes fine and they keep it that way.

-EDIT: If you want a highres version of the trailer, just go to the official site (http://www.gish2.com/). Its flash version will... start to roll ;)

infernobox21

07-02-2008, 10:31 PM

does anyone know if there will be a level editor like in the first Gish?

LuizZak

07-02-2008, 10:53 PM

Somebody saw the last developin' vid?
It's not going to be a single blob, but a bunch of particles that form a strange liquid-like blob! :D
That's so awesome!

soad667

07-03-2008, 01:12 AM

does anyone know if there will be a level editor like in the first Gish?

Well, the devs know for sure :p
I hope they will enlighten us in the next update. But i have high hopes for an editor. They did the... mistake and gave it with the first Gish - they can't take back a... lovely feature like this so easily :cool:

Somebody saw the last developin' vid?
It's not going to be a single blob, but a bunch of particles that form a strange liquid-like blob! That's so awesome!

Yeah, it has been posted on F-M's main page too...
Imagine a feature where there will be little... Gishlings following around Gish and mimic his acts :D

GreyMario

07-03-2008, 03:16 PM

The game is too tiley to not have a level editor.

What we really need, though, is Gish 3D.

soad667

07-03-2008, 04:41 PM

What we really need, though, is Gish 3D.

Well, i can't say i really want to see a 3D version, at least for now. I mean, it's a really unique platform game and has many more things to show (their ideas for Gish2 are... limitless - hope they put it all inside) before start thinking alternative methods (like a 3D version) to make something new/different...

Think of Worms. When they took the step to 3D (i was curious how this'll turn out, but never had high hopes), it came out not so well...

Btw, my personal most wanted feature is, except the editor, an online multiplayer (not only splitscreen) and especially a coop mode. I would never expect from them to add a coop, but with the mobile version already have it, that's enough - the idea is in their head and i wouldn't be surprised if they put it in Gish 2...

Anyway, great expectations, lets wait and see :rolleyes:

starsky

07-03-2008, 05:56 PM

This game will have beautifull physics and gameplay.

Ryu Hinote

07-03-2008, 06:04 PM

What we really need, though, is Gish 3D.

In my opinion the game would become complicated and possibly even frusrating. Adding another dimension adds complexity and can ruin simple fun (see soad667's Worms post)

Whef

07-04-2008, 12:42 AM

In my opinion the game would become complicated and possibly even frusrating. Adding another dimension adds complexity and can ruin simple fun (see soad667's Worms post)

Agreed, we might as well have Cortex Command 3D (wtf?).

Btw, my personal most wanted feature is, except the editor, an online multiplayer (not only splitscreen) and especially a coop mode. I would never expect from them to add a coop, but with the mobile version already have it, that's enough - the idea is in their head and i wouldn't be surprised if they put it in Gish 2...
Deathmatch would be fun, slamming your gish's into other gishes.

Another idea that would be cool is Gish for your Ipod, or phone or something like that.

GreyMario

09-04-2008, 03:03 AM

bump~

No news recently on Gish 2, except something about some intro or something.

Also gish2.com is 404.

Which gets me thinking... did they put the game on hold or something? :V

geel9

09-04-2008, 03:06 AM

Or prepping up for a huge release.

Whef

09-04-2008, 03:14 AM

Ohhh noes! Well, it might just be server downtime, or they might have canceled the project all together...which would be stupid.

h4tt3n

09-04-2008, 08:19 PM

So, whats the story with http://www.gish2.com/?

Are they slowly backing out of Gish 2 or what? There's been no news about the game for quite a while...

GreyMario

09-04-2008, 08:50 PM

[insert smb3 mario death image here]

soad667

09-04-2008, 08:57 PM

So, whats the story with http://www.gish2.com/?
Are they slowly backing out of Gish 2 or what? There's been no news about the game for quite a while...

I sent an email to Edmund before a couple of hours, hope he shed some light about it...
I don't believe at all they'll abandon it. Three options are there for me...
- It simply expired and they didn't notice it.
- Just a server problem.
- They're preparing for an update or something.

I surely want to be the third option, but i'm gonna stick with the first.
When i get an answer, i'll share the... knowledge with you. :cool:

Whef

09-04-2008, 10:38 PM

Haha, look at what it is now. One of those stupid sites. It's funny what sites turn into after they're gone...I've seen them turn into porn sites, or sites for..."Viagra for Women". I think it just expired and they didn't notice it.

GreyMario

09-04-2008, 11:16 PM

I've never seen a dead site turn into a porn site. :V

Whef

09-04-2008, 11:20 PM

I've never seen a dead site turn into a porn site. :V

It happens a lot, probably because the porn sites know people will go to the site for the actual product...and get surprised with whatever they choose...

A good example of this is the Codename Gordon site, you guys know that game? The shitty metal slug of HL2? Ever wonder why it got removed from Steam? They ran out of funding and their site got bought out by a porn/hentia site so Valve was forced to remove it...

GreyMario

09-04-2008, 11:27 PM

halflife2d.com?

just a generic blank website like any other :V

Whef

09-04-2008, 11:28 PM

halflife2d.com?

just a generic blank website like any other :V

I don't know the exact website name, and obviously that isn't it, or the porn site was either forced or decided to move on.

soad667

09-05-2008, 12:18 PM

Well, Edmund said it's a problem with their server.
It will be back up as soon as they fix it. ;)

h4tt3n

10-17-2008, 05:28 PM

Well, Edmund said it's a problem with their server.
It will be back up as soon as they fix it. ;)

It's been more than a month now, and http://www.gish2.com is still dead.

Anyone know anything about how far they are with Gish 2?

Shalafi

10-17-2008, 05:43 PM

I thought there was an update. =(

Who knows...

wakkydude

10-17-2008, 07:54 PM

[insert smb3 mario death image here]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/70/186601641_535dd82e20.jpg?v=0
Mamma Mia!

h4tt3n

11-25-2008, 04:38 PM

I don't get it...

http://www.gish2.com is still dead.

soad667

11-25-2008, 07:47 PM

Maybe they're not at their best regarding money etc and spend their time on less consuming projects to have some profit.
Gish 2 sounds like a big project and if they have financial problems, it's not the best choice to work exclusively on it.
That Cry for Help (http://crypticsea.blogspot.com/2008/11/my-cd-is-out_06.html) recently posted by Edmund, brought me closer to this conclusion.

But i'm just guessing here. Time will tell...
Lets hope everything goes well and we finally see Gish's return. :rolleyes:

h4tt3n

11-25-2008, 09:22 PM

Ah I see!

Seems plausible, although its sad. Ordered the $10 CD.

Cheer up Edmund!

h4tt3n

12-02-2008, 11:28 PM

Just got the cd, and I must say it's worth every cent! Edmund, you're a weird guy, but dammit you make som cool stuff! :)

Cheers,
Mike

GreyMario

07-28-2009, 09:47 PM

/me counts

Seven month and 26 day bump?

Nobody's seen any more word on Gish 2. I do hope this project hasn't died...

Christcross9

07-28-2009, 10:14 PM

/me counts

Seven month and 26 day bump?

Nobody's seen any more word on Gish 2. I do hope this project hasn't died...

IMO it probally did.

QcChopper

07-28-2009, 10:23 PM

I hear that Edmund McMillen will work on Gish 2 full time after he has finished his current project. (No Quarter) Someone I deem very trustworthy has asked the man himself and got this answer. Gish is still one of my favorite games and I can't wait for the sequel.

turunen45

08-07-2009, 10:24 AM

I've never seen a dead site turn into a porn site. :V

I have :D a finnish politician once had his web page expired and instantly it was turned into a Hardcore G*y porn site. he was even blackmailed but the messages were directed to spam so he didnt know. Think about it, as he hands over his businesscards with the expired web address and notices after someone tells him about it. XD

ShnitzelKiller

08-08-2009, 12:26 AM

I don't get it...

http://www.gish2.com is still dead.

It's been another eight months... the gish project looks pretty dead, it really stinks because I was amazed by the new blob simulation they used, you can actually split apart ;_;

geel9

12-01-2009, 04:22 AM

Gish 2 is DEAD

Yes. It's dead. I did an interview with Edmund, soon to be published, and he revealed it is DEAD.

Gamerguy99

12-01-2009, 04:41 AM

It was pretty obvious the game was dead.

geel9

12-01-2009, 05:12 AM

It was pretty obvious the game was dead.

It wasn't official.

Drü-B

12-01-2009, 09:08 PM

Congratulations on hearing it from Edmund, but we all pretty much knew already.

GameXtra

12-02-2009, 03:19 AM

Congratulations on hearing it from Edmund, but we all pretty much knew already.

I had some hopes...
=\ too bed I really like the first concept :X

Gamerguy99

12-02-2009, 03:59 AM

Were there any improvements that could be made in the first place?

Farbror Fazer

12-02-2009, 06:29 AM

Were there any improvements that could be made in the first place?

Yup.

The PCgame sucks compared to the newer mobile version if you ask me. The movement and jumping and stuff is fucked up in the PC version

Kirby

12-02-2009, 08:50 PM

Maybe he will start it after No Quarter is done?

*whimpers*

geel9

12-02-2009, 09:01 PM

Maybe he will start it after No Quarter is done?

*whimpers*

It's dead.

Gamerguy99

12-02-2009, 09:19 PM

Thusly, this thread needs to be locked.

soad667

12-02-2009, 10:14 PM

The best thing they can do is declare the game dead, until they get their hands again on it. It must be really annoying to work on something else (another little gem, Ed has his way to be involved in unique games) and watch people ignoring that or use it as an excuse to ask about Gish 2 for one more time.

Btw, in a Cryptic Sea's blog post, besides news about No Quarter, there was a beautiful line:
"Gish 2 won't be out until next year, deal with it."

I believe that says a lot...

Drü-B

12-03-2009, 12:36 AM

Geel's word is infallible!

geel9

12-18-2009, 12:07 AM

Here's a link to the interview if you're interested.

http://www.gamersinfo.net/news/2922-interview-with-edmund-mcmillen

Shalafi

12-18-2009, 01:05 AM

Here's a link to the interview if you're interested.

http://www.gamersinfo.net/news/2922-interview-with-edmund-mcmillen

Uhm? He only says that they're not working on it. Postponed != canceled.

geel9

12-18-2009, 01:18 AM

Uhm? He only says that they're not working on it. Postponed != canceled.

"(sadly no longer)" indicates they're no longer working on it. If it was only on hold, it wouldn't be sad.

soad667

12-18-2009, 02:18 AM

I don't think they have any reason to keep an abandoned project on the Cryptic Sea's site. The generic message "Release: Later" indicates that it's on hold. It looks obvious to me, he wants people to understand that he works on other projects now and not on Gish 2.

Now, how long is it gonna take, that's another story. Just don't hold your breath on it.

geel9

12-18-2009, 08:22 AM

Shalafi

12-18-2009, 11:34 AM

I'm telling you, it's DEAD. I asked edmund when he sent me the answers. It's DEAD.

Well, the blog and the website say otherwise, plus the "sadly" can mean that they had high expectations but had to postpone it.

Can you quote his exact words where he says it's dead?

SHADR

12-18-2009, 01:57 PM

Gish 2 is on hold and i think cryptic sea will continue it after being done with No Quarter and Pontifex III

Maxwell

12-19-2009, 02:25 AM

I just recently played the first Gish and it was quite good. But also pretty hard :/

I'm curious to see what the sequel will be like...

flyboy95

12-19-2009, 04:51 AM

It's dead.
"(sadly no longer)" indicates they're no longer working on it. If it was only on hold, it wouldn't be sad.
I'm telling you, it's DEAD. I asked edmund when he sent me the answers. It's DEAD.
I just recently played the first Gish and it was quite good. But also pretty hard :/

I'm curious to see what the sequel will be like...
The thread. Read it.

SHADR

12-19-2009, 02:08 PM

if it was really dead they had deleted it from their site but they are saying LATER if you don't understand what later means i can buy you a dictionary

seriously i can

flyboy95

12-19-2009, 03:16 PM

It's dead.
"(sadly no longer)" indicates they're no longer working on it. If it was only on hold, it wouldn't be sad.
I'm telling you, it's DEAD. I asked edmund when he sent me the answers. It's DEAD.
if it was really dead they had deleted it from their site but they are saying LATER if you don't understand what later means i can buy you a dictionary

seriously i can
I'm sorry if this wasn't clear enough.
Loyal Fun Motioner Geel has interviewed the developer, who has clearly stated that Gish 2 is dead.

soad667

12-20-2009, 02:35 AM

Allow me to trust CrypticSea's blog/website. Since they still have it on their "not yet released" titles and they mentioned many times that "Gish2 is on hold until NQ is done", "Gish2 won't be out until next year (2010), deal with it", "Gish2 uses a lot of the tech that's in NQ, so we're still going the right way" etc. If Gish 2 officially dies, i'm sure they'll announce it. They won't expect a random forum to spread the news.

EDIT: Quite some time ago, i asked Edmund a quick question about Gish2, while sending some feedback for NQ's beta. I got the answer that he's focused on NQ and SMB right now, but he never said something about abandoning the project. I could take "sadly no longer" as an "on hold" that lasted a bit more than they expected. But not as "it's dead" at all.

flyboy95

12-20-2009, 02:50 AM

http://jamie-online.com/random-jamz/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/facepalm.jpg

soad667

12-20-2009, 03:01 AM

What is that for? No need to play smart or be rude with facepalms etc.

flyboy95

12-20-2009, 03:17 AM

Sorry, but it perfectly described my expression.

Shalafi

12-20-2009, 04:15 AM

Confirmed, it's been canceled, I asked Cryptic Sea and they removed Gish 2 from the site.

Sadface.

soad667

12-20-2009, 12:09 PM

Confirmed, it's been canceled, I asked Cryptic Sea and they removed Gish 2 from the site.

Sadface.

That was the first thing i wanted to do when i wake up today, to ask Cryptic Sea if they could shed some light on this. Well, that seems a bit more solid now, just checked their site too. R.I.P.